Touch Typing.

[Rodney Mills]

As a break from touch typing how about considering Reading Comprehension?

My sabbatical is about up. But I owe it to you "Dear reader" to explain why I signed off. Following is one of quite a few responses where I was condemned not for what I SAID/WROTE but for what I DID NOT SAY/WROTE = erroneous reading.


6th July 2015, 07:54 PM #27

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My offending sentence. What I ACTUALLY wrote.


...Pray tell me the difference between swimming across the Rio Grande, sneaking through the "Chunnel" on a truck, or jumping from a M.N. ship in Oz or N.Z.? All are illegal entry into a country...



6th July 2015, 10:20 PM #31


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Whilst I enjoy your normally informative posts, comparing our MN seamen jumping ship in Oz or NZ to people who blow up our tubes, blow up our buses, kill our citizens whilst on holiday shows a complete lack of understanding of what is happening in this part of the world...


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8th July 2015, 02:40 AM #41

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I am one of the Jumpers I bailed out in N.Z. started work on the water front within 3 days of jumping never drew welfare or caused anyone any problems,flew to OZ and entered legally no problems did every thing above board never...

...in the hospitals there so overcrowded with refos.Thousands on welfare not enough jobs to go around and still over fifty thousand
immigrants coming in every year.terrorist around every corner.Give me a break comparing Jumpers to this lot that's the laugh of the decade.


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8th July 2015, 07:35 AM #44

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Regarding post unrelated to The Cruel Sea


Has Rodney got any comments on these recent [posts??


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As per Gulliver's comment on the use of names, I have not used them.


Yes! I do have a belated comment...Please reread the offending excerpt from my post and tell me where I compared those who jumped ship with "tube and bus bombers?" "killers of citizens? " "terrorists?" And welfare bludgers in general?

One of my sons "Jumped an airplane" in Auckland and was there ILLEGALLY for seven years (I visited him in New Zealand three times), he too, other than illegal entry, was law abiding just like the author of #41 post. He never accepted welfare, worked hard, paid his taxes and was a model in every other way baring his method of entry to New Zealand. He left because he couldn't advance his employment: turning down promotions and constantly fearing discovery of his illegality. He opened his own company. Self-employment gave him a form of submersion into society (he employed four New Zealanders). The constant fear of discovery cramped even his marriage prospects. He told me, "Dad, how can I date someone and risk falling for her, raise a family, but somewhere down the line be discovered as an Illegal and deported"?

After seven years he sold his company; received a tax clearance, and returned to the USA. How possible could I compare my son to a terrorist? Never did I compare a "jumper" to a terrorist. Those who posted and those who "liked" and "thanked" read into my post what they wanted to read...not what I posted/wrote.

All illegals to any country should be sent back— even including my son who entered New Zealand illegally. Members of any race illegally entering the US, the UK, Australia, or China for that matter should be deported...No exceptions. Here in the states we refer to it as jumping the queue.

If it's acceptable that I sign-on, please read what I ACTUALLY write, then if you disagree fairdinkum, state your case, I will not get pished at that.

[Ivan Cloherty]

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Now if the above gets you pished, so be it, but I don't think many of us are guilty of erroneous reading despite our lack of formal education in many cases, including myself.

Rgds


Sorry Ivan I made an error in my Edit! Please add your first comment again without the Quote though Thanks

[Gulliver]

[QUOTE=Rodney Mills;238409]As a break from touch typing how about considering Reading Comprehension?

My sabbatical is about up. But I owe it to you "Dear reader" to explain why I signed off. Following is one of quite a few responses where I was condemned not for what I SAID/WROTE but for what I DID NOT SAY/WROTE = erroneous reading. etc.........]/QUOTE


Rodney,I'll be bluddy glad to get off the subject of touch typing !
An interesting comeback post of yours there Rodney.


Aye,there can be some really 'funny' so-and-so's on this site at times and I must admit it can be really irritating Just remember the unwritten site rule-,it's alright to be given criticism, but it's not alright to criticise back ,and you can't go wrong ! Just like being back at sea really. Yakety Yak.gif
Hope your self imposed sabbatical refreshed you
Welcome back ! It's been over a year now.

All the Best
Gulliver

[Chris Allman]

Hey guys does this not bring back memories - teddy out of pram - deep silences - I'm not your shipmate anymore - followed by - make up - friends again till the next argument - got the T ' Shirt - seen the video - happened nearly every trip. If you post on here then you expect somebody to disagree - par for the course, but its not a need to take a paddy and feel deep resentment. This is life, someone will always think they are right and someone will always think that the other person is wrong. Hey we are big boys and girls now, life is too short for resentment and hate. We all, as sailors have experienced the hard times, cooped up with people who drove us mad for months on end, but we had to get on and we did get on, which says a lot for our characters and understanding. Nothing has changed we are still the same people, so lets show the same character and understanding. Life is very precious now, as we sail towards our signing off, let it be filled with friendship and good memories, not bickering and petty mindedness. ( I did use the spell checker on this post )

[j.sabourn]

I think it a bit insulting to quote a persons lack of learning. In which case most people serving at sea today should not be there. As regards certificated persons there is no English paper to prove they can at least converse in the English language. This used to be a failing paper in the British certification qualification. Just a reminder about the non existence of British shipping of years gone by. I hate to think of the universal English grammar standard of todays marine people, as must have gone to the lowest level, the same as the old convoy rule as their speed being the speed of the slowest ship. Being able to speak with an Oxford accent however proves nothing. JWS

[j.sabourn]

#22... Ivan your S message proves very gratifying will put in the next letter .... Cheers JWS

[j.sabourn]

As an aside to these and similar posts. Cappy you mentioned a 2nd mate on the Avonmoor on your passage back from Oz to South Shields., about 1959. Was his surname Nash, his first name hasn't come back to me yet, but no doubt probably will sometime. He was a quite tall person , blond and a Geordie, he was 2nd mate on the Avonmoor when she went into Hawthorne leslies Drydock on the Tyne, think you left her there, think this was prepatory to her being sold to the Chinese. I was doing 3 days turn and turn with him on a dead ship. I had a girl friend who lived in Wallsend at the time who used to pop across on the ferry some nights and we used to sit in the pub just outside the gates some nights. If it was Nash I went to Council school with him, he was about 3 years older than me and think he was Head boy at one time. In those days we all smoked like troopers and one day he joined us behind the bike shed, he was smoking a pasha cigarette, there after we used to shout at him Nasher smokes Pasha. and he used to chase us. Us others were very discrimative in our smoking habits, we used to smoke woodbines, which in those days you could buy singly. Cheers JWS

[happy daze john in oz]

Tomorrow, and tomorrow and tomorrow creeps in this petty pace from day to day, to the last syllable of recorded time
and all our yesterdays have lighted fools the way to dusty death,
Out, out brief candle, life is but a stage and every one a player who struts and frets his hour upon the stage and then is heard no more.

And so dear friends, there is but little time to waste on trivial matters, that in the scheme of things do little to enhance our lives.

Live life and love, stand tall and let no man who may offend you turn you from mankind, for in all there is good and bad.

[Doc Vernon]

You been walking in those Woods again John!
Looking at all the Nature abound and getting all Poetic ! LOL
great STUFF MATE!

[cappy]

As an aside to these and similar posts. Cappy you mentioned a 2nd mate on the Avonmoor on your passage back from Oz to South Shields., about 1959. Was his surname Nash, his first name hasn't come back to me yet, but no doubt probably will sometime. He was a quite tall person , blond and a Geordie, he was 2nd mate on the Avonmoor when she went into Hawthorne leslies Drydock on the Tyne, think you left her there, think this was prepatory to her being sold to the Chinese. I was doing 3 days turn and turn with him on a dead ship. I had a girl friend who lived in Wallsend at the time who used to pop across on the ferry some nights and we used to sit in the pub just outside the gates some nights. If it was Nash I went to Council school with him, he was about 3 years older than me and think he was Head boy at one time. In those days we all smoked like troopers and one day he joined us behind the bike shed, he was smoking a pasha cigarette, there after we used to shout at him Nasher smokes Pasha. and he used to chase us. Us others were very discrimative in our smoking habits, we used to smoke woodbines, which in those days you could buy singly. Cheers JWS

###morning john ....it was in june 59 when i came back to the tyne on the avonmoor after joining her in wallaroo as OS......i was put on the 12 to 4 and found the 2nd mate agreat guy ......the avonmoor as stated was in one hell of a state ........runcimans must have known i would think they were selling her for a long time .....the mate was a great proper old time seaman and i think i am right in saying he was a survivor of one of the pq covoys badly hit .....infact the ship i think had more character aboard of older seamen who had been through the war than any other vessel i sailed on......i will never forget the avonmoor as she was taking me home after a big adventure some good some bad in thatgreat country australia.....although she was the worst feeder i was ever on and the accom was crap i enjoyed the voyage home to shields my hometown.....on arriving the second mate asked me if i would like to stay aboard and help using one of the winches....to take the spare prop from the engine room tops if i remember .........but i had been away to long and wanted to skeet home .....the second mate was a tall dark haired gangly man and quite softly spoken......i had never steered under a pilot in a busy waterway ... i told him and he said now is your chance but i will give you a steering ticket anyway .......we were running up to brake in germany ....and of course it was very dark and a lot of shipping about.......i will admit now i was flapping .....i told him this and he made me stay but i was bricking it ....it was atruly busy river wide as i remember and a lot of vessels about .......plus a german pilot talking with a hard accent .....when i eventually paid of and got my wages i hfound i was signed on as deck boy and had been paid accordingly .....second time this had occured as i went supposedly from galley boy to assitant cook ....again on payoff found i was still being paid as a boyrating in one of hains bangers ......i cannot remember the second mates name but he was a true gent .....again being as i felt cheated was perhaps part of a great learning curve of life as i found later in the business world nobody ever ripped me off again with impunity ......they were wild but happy times john of which i know many on the site will have shared ...certainly yourself included......i would have liked to have met that2nd mate now as he was one person who i took a shine to....but guesss if he is still with us will be well into his 80s .......i dont think the avonmoor would have been allowed to sail inher condition in this world today ...but who knows there are still many bangers in the world .......best wishes to you and gwen john ....it was pats birthday yesterday......we had the family here and a nice day i am taking her out for a special dinner of her favourite meal onfriday as we are looking after our two grandaughters at present ......hope all is well with you cappy ps i was seeing that girl from wallsend the other 3 nights but she made me promise to not tell you .....lol cappy......john we paid off inshields middle dock if i remember .......cappy