23rd April

[Keith at Tregenna]

Edward III wanted to rebuild the strength of the English monarchy after the disastrous reign of his father – St George was part of his strategy to make England one of the most powerful and warlike nations in Europe. It was probably the 12th century Crusaders however who first invoked his name as an aid in battle.

The Celtic Saints were not so war like.

K.

[happy daze john in oz]

From what I have seen on TV news it would appear that the Richard Craniums in UK are the worst in the world for misuse of the national flag.
I know in some countries they may burn that of other nations, but it goes much further in UK than that.

[j.sabourn]

#52.. most of those crusaders weren’t even English they were French Dutch and German, the original crusaders weren’t even knights with their own armies , they were members of a warrior band of monks purely en route to assist travellers on their way against robbers and bands of cutthroats on their pilgrimage to the Holy Land. When the knights and their followers took up the cause they went with the blessing of the pope at the time. In later years the pope then in power and king Phillipe of France decided the leaders of the crusaders had too much money and power and decided to relieve them of it. The pope declared them heretics and Phillipe backed him up and burned most of them at the stake as heretics and put their money into his own coffers . The few who escaped got to Scotland , that’s why freemasonry started there in the uk first. It is believed they helped the Scots in their fight against the English. JS

[Lewis McColl]

We still have Crusaders in N Ireland, first football team I ever supported my Grandad Lewis used to take me as a nipper.the Crues.jpg

[j.sabourn]

#54 As regards the statements anyone who has the energy or the wish to google this , will probably find similar and if different in certain cases from what I said will be due to reporters privilige to respond to his own requirements . He or they will have got their original information from the Craft itself, but will of course never follow the strict lines that members follow. So will never be 100% as per the book. Believe what you want. All information found as per pasting etc. will bear a modicum of truth , but I wouldnt bet my life on it. As regards #54 Googling Preceptory may or may not get one there. Cheers JS

Whilst touching the edges of secrecy as some would like to call it , I wonder if the Vatican will ever release the open secret that they hold the original missing Gospel of Judas Iscariot in their own massive records Library. Rumour has it that it will never be released to the public as would stand the whole faith on its ear.
JS

[Keith at Tregenna]

Unless I missed it but hard to believe that all these so called proud to be Englishmen failed to mention St Georges day 23rd April.

May'be next year ?

K.

[Ivan Cloherty]

Then again, perhaps unlike other countries, we don't have to remind people that we exist by holding a particular Saint's Day Celebration. We know we are here, and other countries know we are here, whether good or bad. Nearly everywhere in the world the UK is referred to as England, perhaps that's why S, W, NI, need to remind people they exist.

Just a thought.::

[Keith at Tregenna]

Prefer, The Dunkirk Jack, House flag of the Association of Dunkirk Little Ships. The Cross of St. George with the arms of Dunkirk. Flown only by boats that were present at the evacuation of Dunkirk in WWII.

Not many in Angerland would know a lot of that either.

K.

[j.sabourn]

Not many know either why a Jack is flown either. Where and when. JS

[Keith at Tregenna]

A jack is a flag flown from a short jackstaff at the bow (front) of a vessel.

Jacks on bowsprits or foremasts appeared in the 17th century.

A naval jack is usually flown when the ship is not under way, but is moored or at anchor, or when it is dressed overall on special occasions. The Union Jack of the Royal Navy must be run up when the first line is ashore when coming alongside.

K.