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10th April 2018, 09:16 PM
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Re: Shore supply electrics
A big help would be Tidal power it is there 24/7 and more investment should be sourced. Nuclear power is an amazing tool, the problem is it will come at a cost when it does go wrong? also end of life for a nuke power plant is what 50+years to make the site safe again. I also think nuke plants in the hands of private enterprise, sorry no way should that be allowed to happen. Look at the North sea, Big oil has started to divest itself from wells that are nearing the end of there deposits. They are flogging them of to smaller operators!!why? I suspect that it is because of the clean up costs, as in the removal of redundant plant. By selling on they are reducing there exposure and responsibility to return the site as was and there by protect the environment.
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10th April 2018, 09:21 PM
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Re: Shore supply electrics

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robpage
you have two choices , fossil fuel or fission , my real world choice would be clean the exhaust , but the Greens won't even talk about that so which choice do we have
Remember reading years ago a company in Oxford had developed a plasma exhaust and car radiator.
Air passing though the radiator was cleaned and purified.
Very little pollution was emitted from the exhaust, nothing has been heard of the system since.
Vic
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10th April 2018, 09:25 PM
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Re: Shore supply electrics

Originally Posted by
vic mcclymont
Remember reading years ago a company in Oxford had developed a plasma exhaust and car radiator.
Air passing though the radiator was cleaned and purified.
Very little pollution was emitted from the exhaust, nothing has been heard of the system since.
Vic
link https://www.dieselnet.com/tech/plasma.php
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10th April 2018, 09:44 PM
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BP have just announced that they will be bringing onstream two new oil fields. One west of Shetland the other east of Aberdeen. Estimated output, 30,000 barrels a day.
Vic
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10th April 2018, 10:09 PM
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Re: Shore supply electrics

Originally Posted by
vic mcclymont
BP have just announced that they will be bringing onstream two new oil fields. One west of Shetland the other east of Aberdeen. Estimated output, 30,000 barrels a day.
Vic
I would imagine this will be work carried out by the likes of the Glenlyon FPSO/recovery vessel.
https://www.bp.com/en_gb/united-king...-shetland.html
At maximum output of 30,000 barrels a day you would have a ship like BP's British Century loading for a total of 33.33 days, me thinks they are sucking the bottom.1494430692208.jpg
BP announces two North Sea discoveries - BBC News
BP to sell North Sea assets to Serica Energy in £300m deal - BBC News
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10th April 2018, 11:35 PM
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Haven’t opened BPs announcements, but if they are stating as your post suggests that these are new discovery’s , then I think any journalist printing such is doing so for his own needs. They are probably uncapping well heads that may or most probably will be profitable. West of Shetland the best sites were surveyed and drilled many years ago. The North Sea speaks for itself and must be nearly 100 per cent surveyed. Their biggest problem will be dismantling the offshore structures. Which to a lot of people’s thinking would be ideal for accomodation for the undesirable tenents of some of the Tenents of HM prisons which are more in line with hotel standards . A few thousand grey nurse sharks could then be imported from Australia to give them a new life and food chain by letting them colonise the waters of the North Sea. You give us convicts we give you grey nurses, a fair exchange. JWS
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11th April 2018, 06:50 AM
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Like you we here in Oz have great subsidies paid to the 'Green' energy companies.
If we had stayed with coal we would be paying a quarter of what we are now.
As to nuclear, there are many such power plants around the world all working well.
The ones that suffered problems are the older ones and in the case of Japan from a bloody tsunami.
Here the farmers are happy to have the turbines on their land as the rent they receive is beyond belief.
All have diesel engines to keep the bearing going when not in use.
Problem there is when you see one turning you have no idea if it is the wind or the engine.
We had a report here a couple of years ago about some wind turbines in the Bristol; Channel area.
According to the report they could only be used for about three months a year as for the rest of the time the wind was too strong.
Any truth in this story?


Happy daze John in Oz.
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11th April 2018, 07:33 AM
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National Grid pay producers to switch off , lowered demand in a good wind and you cannot just turn Power Stations down , so a warm summer evening you turn turbines off , and compensate producers
Rob Page R855150 - British & Commonwealth Shipping ( 1965 - 1973 ) Gulf Oil -( 1973 - 1975 ) Sealink ( 1975 - 1986 ) 

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11th April 2018, 08:50 AM
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11th April 2018, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by
happy daze john in oz
Like you we here in Oz have great subsidies paid to the 'Green' energy companies.
If we had stayed with coal we would be paying a quarter of what we are now.
As to nuclear, there are many such power plants around the world all working well.
The ones that suffered problems are the older ones and in the case of Japan from a bloody tsunami.
Here the farmers are happy to have the turbines on their land as the rent they receive is beyond belief.
All have diesel engines to keep the bearing going when not in use.
Problem there is when you see one turning you have no idea if it is the wind or the engine.
We had a report here a couple of years ago about some wind turbines in the Bristol; Channel area.
According to the report they could only be used for about three months a year as for the rest of the time the wind was too strong.
Any truth in this story?
Yes John, true, if wind rises above a certain speed wind turbines are switched off to protect them.
I used to travel to Scotland regularly along the M74, on each side of the motorway there are hundreds of the damn things.
In winter it was not uncommon to see them all standing idle.
Vic
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