All the pubs and clubs that have long gone mentioned in these posts . The Caradoc..........And the Winifred { Know known as the Gateway} Still both there m8 i live a stones throw away from both of them. Up until 6 months ago the owner of the Caradoc Terry Riley,,, Put up a notice in the lounge area { THIS IS A DESIGNATED SMOKING AREA IF YOU DONT SMOKE DONT ENTER} He argued his case in court putting forward if i stop people smoking in my pub it will close within weeks. I actually thought he had a point there should be smoking and no smoking pubs. Then people can make up there own mind rather than being told you have no other choice. Regards all Terry.

p.s. If you went a little further north on the same road the Caradoc is on there was the old Seafoth dog track and two other pubs the Royal Hotel,,,, and The International,,,,, The Royal is now an office block The International is boardered up but is a listed building A really good pint in both them boozer,s ws called Toby Light anyone remember it loverly stuff. Terry.