Liverpool Dock Road.

[Chris Allman]

I had an `encounter` with a barmaid from the Caradoc when I was working by on the Empress of France in 1957. She lived in Elphinstone Street. the result was revolting........................
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Happy Days.
Brian

The mind boggles Brian

Chris

[Capt Bill Davies]

There used to be a pub up an alley alongside of Rigby's, known as Walters but I believe it was also 'The Hole in the Wall'

I can recall Tom Halls, Mann Island was a Threlfalls house. Green ceramic tiles on the outside.

My favourite was Yates Ale (no, not the Wine Lodge). Taken over by John Smiths in the early 60s and not to my liking. Bents was even worse.


Bill

[Captain Kong]

There was a pub near the new Pool and at the back of the new Mission, the RED LION.
that was a good meeting place to find out what was going through the Pool.
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I remember one time, `One Way `Ryann a fireman I once sailed one way with on a Star boat, he sailed out on one ship and always deported back on another. hence the name.
One night he and a mate were hiding in the Red Lion at closing time, and after the pub was closed, they started robbing the place of cases of ale. One Way`s, mate was outside the window and One Way was inside passing out cases, those wooden ones with bottles of beer in. His mate got nicked by the Police, One Way continued passing cases of ale through the window to the Cop. must have had more than a dozen all stacked up, and no way of shifting them, they hadnt thought of that. Then he was climbing through the window and the Policeman helped him out then said ,` OK One Way , your nicked.` and he was lead away with his mate to the Bridewell. I think the Stipendary Magistrate McFarlane sent him to Walton for a month.
He was a legend, I have a photo of him.
Cheers Brian.

[Jim Brady]

I sailed with Banjo Ryan,a greaser called Banjo for obvious reasons.He played one tune he called it the Death Of The Swan.He said he was on a ship and he was playing his banjo whilst this gay steward was doing ballet around the cabin (maybe Swan Lake)The next performance, this AB threw an orange through the porthole hit the banjo and broke the strings music finished the steward fell to the deck and announced"The Death Of The Swan"
Regards.
Jim.B.

[Keith Tindell]

Hi Montreal in the late 50s , you could only drink in a club if you were eating as i recall, some served a compulsory salad, maybe the one you were in dropped the requirement to the bare bones of a salt pot!!!!! KT

[Capt Bill Davies]

Anyone remember 'The Cottage' on the corner of Blackstone Street and the Dock Road. Just before the A1 at Lloyds going in the Seaforth direction.

Bill

[Dennis McGuckin]

hmm Kong, we'd all be interested as to the secret of your 'revolting encounter' with the Caradoc barmaid. You sure she wasn't an exchange barperson from Danny's Bar in Antwerp? As to the Empress Of France, think that used to be a rhyming slang expression for 'taking a chance'.
gilly

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used to be a Broke Nosed Jacks in Montreal round the corner from Joe Beefs. As i recall you were never allowed more than two full glasses of beer each on your table and always a salt cellar in evidence. Never quite understood the reason for that apart from maybe inducing a thirst.
gilly

Salt was to take the gas out of the beer.[why?]Also a lot of locals added tomato juice to their beer.
Right up to the 70ies you could ony get beer in the bars, no hard stuff. Also it was men only in one area and woman with escorts in another.
Used to dock in Vancouver where I had a sister. A bunch of us would go ashore and take here with us. That way we got into the ladies only. Think by the end of two weeks [took a while to load deck cargo of lumber] we were banned from most bars in town.
Some bars had a plate of sarnies on the table that were curled up and had to be weeks old.
Happy times,but thank God it has changed
Den.

[Glyn Jones]

Whilst I would agree with your post Glyn there was always confusion what constituted a Black and Tan. Was it Guinness over Bitter OR Guinness over Mild.

Interesting to hear from the members what they think.

Brgds

Bill

PS: I have always believed it to be Guinness over Bitter.

As I was born in a pub, and an ex Lanlord myself, I always served a Black and Tan as half pint of mild with a bottle of guiness over the top, unless someone asked for an alternative, ie Mackeson or Cream stout with mild or bitter, but never lager. Glyn

[JoeWhelan]

Five years on M/v Egret made for many happy days and nights in the Devils.

[Jim Brady]

This is not a Party Political Broadcast so dont take it as such.The Black And Tans were an army made up of every despicable low life person that you can imagine,released from prison and put to the task.These people were released on the Irish people to wreak havoc and boy did they do it.I will not go on about the atrocities carried out by this militia but come to the point.They were issued with black jackets and tan trousers hence the name Black And Tans.So a half of bitter(tan) and a bottle of guinness (black0 gave you the black and tan.
Regards.
Jim.B.