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[happy daze john in oz]

JUST A QUESTION what condition would this country be in if we had never joined the common market? the way it was explained to us at the time industies were moved around europe and everything in common market coutries would basicly be the same price like a loaf here would be the same price in the common market members its gone very far from them days now steel from india ship building far east the last time i noticed non were members of the cm?jp

This is the main problem with the EU. It will take generations, if ever, for common prices across all members. How can you have the same price for a loaf of bread in Germany and Romania? Two countries at extreme ends of the economic scale. Prices of goods are normaly relevant to wages, the higher the general wage standard the higher the price of goods. But it goes further than that, it is alsoa case of life style. In the poorer countries they often queue for basics such as bread which for many is a basic staple diet, where as in Germany they is more money spent on luxury goods. Then there is the cost of utilities, from what I know a greater percentage of wages goes to gas and electric in UK than in some other EU countries. This is why it is doubtful that equality across the Eu will ever be achieved.

[happy daze john in oz]

John
Our Industries were signed away in the Lima Agreement in 1975, by , I think, Harold Wilson. a real good Socialist. all our industries had to be given away to Third World Countries to spread the work around to the poor countries who are now richer than we are.
I wonder if they will now give them back???
Cheers
Brian.

I doubt it, not whilst the ikes of **** are doing so well from the current situation.
Just a thought Brain, but should we give **** some respect and call him Mr. ****? No I thought not, silly me.

[happy daze john in oz]

What would happen if these country's that are heavily in debt declare themselves skint and took the same action as Argentina and Iceland and defaulted on their loans would this wipe the slate clean?Maybe they could go back to their own currency and set their own Bank Rate I'm sure some of them would be better out of the Euro.
Regards.
Jim.B.

Jim early last year a suggestion was floated here in Oz that debts from som eof these poorer countries be wiped off allowing them to begin with a fresh start. It did gain some support but sadly the major stake holders, mainly Russia and china would not agree. Both of those countries are major providors of global credit. here is also a political agenda here. If you wipe the sltae clean for them then you have no hold on them. There is a concerted push to ensure that only certain countries, China, India, Brazil do well very often at the expence of poorer nations.

[j.sabourn]

Just get rid of all the politicians. John Sabourn

[cappy]

spoke to my local postman this morninghes a canny lad asked him about the ballot on strike action he hadnot heard a thing about it I told him there had been a union leader spouting off a fat bstard didn't look as if he could walk a round but that's usual for unionstalk the talk but cant walk the walk themselves he said the emails and texts etc were taking lots of mail away and he covered now wot used to be done by two posties inless time is this a good time for to get even less mail the fat bstard seems to think so regards cappy

[j.sabourn]

Nearly every Industry over the past 20 years has reduced manpower on the excuse that machines etc can do the job. The only Industry which is overmanned mostly by uneccessary and untrained dead heads are politicians. Why is it necessary to have so many, if any at all. I dont know what the result is in uk is about the libertys of the press, but believe the one in power here is trying to get curbs on same, no doubt she is looking to the forthcoming elections and is worried about the bad press that no doubt will come out about her and her party. If a government controls the press that is the absolute end to Democracy and we are no better than these states that run a government press. The press does run free rein at times but at least with the modern computers etc. people have the right to reply which goes worldwide so they dont have it all their own way. As regards the mess that the EU has got itself into, what does anyone expect, different races and people have different outlooks, you just cant dump the lot in the pot together and hope the mix will come out good. The worlds animal and fauna life has more idea as they keep to their own. There again the average politician has a brain probably below the one of a monkey. Cheers John Sabourn

[Louis the Amigo]

Hi shipmates, our heavy industry has long gone, what we do today is move money around on computers "City of london" or service jobs/retail every proper job cost more and more to the company,What is needed is new types of Industry and many new jobs will be created the E.U. should become a closed shop, to stop China dumping they rubbish on us ,A 70 % tax should do the trick The Chinese have plenty of people who want they goods in Africa/ and many other countries so they workers wont suffer?

[Captain Kong]

Jim early last year a suggestion was floated here in Oz that debts from som eof these poorer countries be wiped off allowing them to begin with a fresh start. It did gain some support but sadly the major stake holders, mainly Russia and china would not agree. Both of those countries are major providors of global credit. here is also a political agenda here. If you wipe the sltae clean for them then you have no hold on them. There is a concerted push to ensure that only certain countries, China, India, Brazil do well very often at the expence of poorer nations. Like HD JOHN
.
. Hi John, I saw on Al Jazeera TV News, that your lovely lady PM has Doubled aid to Myanmar and also a gift of 20,000,000 dollars as well.
Isnt she nice.
Brian.

[happy daze john in oz]

Jim early last year a suggestion was floated here in Oz that debts from som eof these poorer countries be wiped off allowing them to begin with a fresh start. It did gain some support but sadly the major stake holders, mainly Russia and china would not agree. Both of those countries are major providors of global credit. here is also a political agenda here. If you wipe the sltae clean for them then you have no hold on them. There is a concerted push to ensure that only certain countries, China, India, Brazil do well very often at the expence of poorer nations. Like HD JOHN
.
. Hi John, I saw on Al Jazeera TV News, that your lovely lady PM has Doubled aid to Myanmar and also a gift of 20,000,000 dollars as well.
Isnt she nice.
Brian.

Brian this lady, if she can be so named, is chucking money around like there is no tommorow, but it is only tax payers money so it does not count.

[happy daze john in oz]

John #36, this so called gov of ours has been after the press for ages, they do not like the truth about them being published. But it looks as if it will get through now after a few amendmenst. Two independents who were so opposed to it have changed their minds, had they not there was agood chance the gov could have fallen. That would have meant an early election and them out of a job. Staying in power is what it is all about, not what is good for the nation.