Pool fisher anniversary.

[Ivan Cloherty]

It would be nice to know just how many shipping casualities there are these days on an annual count. Covering total loss, partial loss, and loss of crew members.

John, there is a website from an insurance company that publishes weekly figures on losses on vessels over 100grt, unfortunately my web playing up at moment, will try and trace it before I disappear for a few days. If I remember correctly there were over 100 vessel losses reported in one year not so long ago. But of course you will not read about them as no British passengers on board

[Captain Kong]

Here is a photo of POOL FISHER,, 12 Seafarers and the Chief Engineers wife died.
Two lads saved.Don Crane and Mark Fooks. I wrote the whole story somewhere in the Forum.

Cheers
Brian.

[Ivan Cloherty]

John, the website is www.cargolaw.com/presentations_casualties.php

full of good information

[gray_marian]

Ivan, Do you have to pay a subscription to access the reviews on this particular site? Thank you.

[Mike Hall]

The crew that lost there lives are as follows.

Captain-- John M Stewart
Chief Officer--Francis W Cooper
Second Officer--Nick Tuchmann
Chief Engineer--Eric Carvill
Second Engineer--Unknown
Steward--Richard E Roberts
Cook--Robert Brennan
Bosun--Terry Morgan
A.B.--Harry Throup
A.B.--Angus Mcdonald
Fireman--Paddy Rowan
Fireman--Unknown
Chief Engineers Wife--Doris Carvill

The two that survived,
E.D.H.--Mark Fook
A.B.--Donald Crane

All the above was supplied to me by Donald Crane.

[Captain Kong]

thanks for that Mike, it was Second Officer, Nick Tuchmann that I was talking to on VHF just before she capsised, and then he died, He said he would be OK after I told him they looked in a bad way.
A sad case. I met most of the widows afterwards and the 17 year old son of Mrs Carvill. so sorry for them

Cheers
Brian.

[Ivan Cloherty]

Ivan, Do you have to pay a subscription to access the reviews on this particular site? Thank you.

Sorry for tardy reply, was away and missed your post. I have never paid to access it Rgds

[leratty]

Brian, were you within visual of them or only via VHF? I have a book somewhere on the sinking of ships radio messages-conversations & one haunts me. It was & I think I may have mentioned it before, a large UK fishing vessel near Iceland which had black ice on her. They could not get it off fast enough & the skipper was talking to those near by via VHF about the situation of his vessel how she was listing further & further over, then he said, "We are going over now good bye." or something close to that. There were no survivors it has stuck in my mind ever since reading it. It was like a guy on one of the sites I worked in Canada on who was slowly consumed by the slurry in a holding dam. His machine had slipped into it as the side of the dam collapsed. We could not get a line to him to pull him out in time. Truly horrifying felt so f... useless, cried like a baby too just not something you ever forget. Also heard the radio calls in the 1998 Sydney to Hobart, mainly off the Sir Winston Churchill + one or two others fighting for ones life. Hearing that is beyond scary as you too are in strained circumstances. The helii pilots in my opinion never got their just recognition or deserts for their heroism & piloting etc skill.

[Ivan Cloherty]

#18

The trawler was the 'Ross Cleveland' lost in January 1968, the Skipper was Phillip Gay whose last words when talking to the trawler 'Kingston Andalusite' were ' I am going over. Give my love and the crew's love to their wives and families' that was the final message. The 'Ross Cleveland' was the third trawler to sink in January 1968 with a total loss of 58 lives, the others were 'St Romanus' and 'Kingston Peridot'. I sailed with the likes of these men in the 1950's, all brave men and seamen to the core, rough, hard working, but incredibly kind to a youngster

These losses instigated the commissioning of a watch medically equipped mother ship (an ex stern trawler) 'Miranda'

All the trawlers sailed out of Hull, the 58 total brought the total fisherman lost sailing out of Hull to 6000 souls during war and peace whilst trawling, and that's just out of one port.

The most dangerous profession in the world by any standards

[Captain Kong]

Hi Richard,
The Pool Fisher was dead ahead when I first saw her swinging from port to starboard, I called him up and asked what his intentions were, He told me he had problems with his steering. I told him to try and maintain his course and I would move to the South of him. We were abeam of each other just south of Brighton by 5 cables. She was siloueted* by the shore lights and a full moon. and his foredeck was awash and his stern high out of the water, I could see his rudder and the prop threshing about. I called him again and told him what I could see. The Second Mate said he would be OK and carried on. then by the Isle of Wight he capsised and sank.
Cheers
Brian.