discharge numbers

[giacomin]

Hi, Do hope someone can help me track down some ship's discharge numbers and the ships they refer to. My late grandfather, who I never met, was a steward in the Merchant Navy. I've recently tracked down some discharge numbers. His name was John Leonard Jackson and he was born in Gleaston in Furness. The first number is 118024 dated 27/4/22, 108842- 12/9/22, 119582- 31/12/23, 137466 - 2/1/26 and 957660, don't know that date. Family legend has it that he was torpedoed and in an open boat for some time. Is there anyway I can confirm that? I'd be very grateful for any help. Many thanks.

[Doc Vernon]

ON	LR/IMO	ID	Year	Name	Tons	Change	Starke	Ref.	Registered Owner	Port
108842		1108842	1899	MANCHESTER IMPORTER	4028		V1899	#386	Manchester Liners Ltd	GBR Manchester

119582 11195821904MANCHESTER MARINER4106V1904#421Manchester Liners LtdGBR Manchester119582 11195821904MANCHESTER MARINER41061920V1904#421Manchester Ocean Services LtdGBR Manchester

Now there are Discharge Numbers and Official Numbers,the first is of course referral to a persons discharge Number!
The Second referres to the Ships Official Numbers!
I have supplies what Mirimar has on Official Numbers
The First Number it doesnt show,and the last Number looks like a persons R Number!
Cheers

ADDED That first Number comes up at the N Archives
Cheers
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/c...type=Reference

Dont know if this may be him?

Or when was he Born!!

Name:	John Leonard Jackson
Age in 1911:	41
Estimated Birth Year:	abt 1870
Relation to Head:	Head
Gender:	Male
Birth Place:	Gleaston In Furness, Lancashire, England
Civil parish:	Eccles
County/Island:	Lancashire
Country:	England
Street Address:	18 Bell Terrace
Marital Status:	Married

Noname Census.jpg

[Gulliver]

Hi ‘ giacomin’.
Just adding my collected information to Vernon’s for you.
First,just a bit puzzled as to why you think he was torpedoed,as your ‘timeline’ for this person’s ships is for the interwar years-unless he also served later on ,during WWII?…

　
I have used Miramar Ship Index and the CLIP lists for my results-and attached a few ship photos from Photoships where appropriate.
Note that Lloyds Register,which someone on site may have access to,may possibly confirm or substantiate these results,so I hope someone will reply.

118024.CLIP says s.s.ALCA of Liverpool,from 1903 when built until 1907,when it left the register.This does not correspond with your grandfather’s date of 1922-so possibly there is an error in transcription of that Official Number of 118024?
MANCHESTER IMPORTER 1899-1927.jpg
108842. s.s. MANCHESTER IMPORTER (4,028 tons cargo liner).Manchester Liners from 1899-1927.
119582. s.s. MANCHESTER MARINER (4,106 tons cargo liner). Manchester Liners from 1904-1925. MANCHESTER MARINER 1904-1925.jpg
137466 s.s. BLARNEY a small coasting vessel of 423 tons owned by City of Cork SP Co(Coast Lines subsidiary) from 1920-1930
Coastville 1935. Ex- BLARNEY from 1920-1930.jpg
957660 ? May be an error in transcription or in recording this number?

　
　
Regards Gulliver


　

[DeepSea]

If he served during WWI, then there are no surviving service records for this period to confirm the ship he was torpedoed from. If you are refering to WWII, you would need to access either the Fourth of Fifth Register held at Kew, depending on when he left the Merchant Navy. Copies of the Fourth Register can also be found at Southampton.

[Ray Buck]

Jackson, John Leonard His WWI medal entitlement is held in the TNA Kew
The National Archives | DocumentsOnline | Image Details

If this is the right person then it appears that he didn't serve in WWII from
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com.../UHP-0014.html

John Leonard Jackson (son of Thomas Jackson and Mary Jane Brockbank) was born 9 July 1872 in Barrow in Furness, Lancashire UK, and died 24 December 1929 in Salford, Lancashire UK. He married Amelia Armer on February 1905 in St Marks, Barrow in Furness, daughter of Thomas Armer and Mary Foster.

[giacomin]

Thanks to all, for your replies.
John Leonard was born in 1870 and he died in 1929. If he were torpedoed it would have to have been in the 1st World War. Haven't been able to find any information about earlier sailings and presumably he was at sea before the turn of the century. Also I found him living in Belfast Northern Ireland from abt 1905 to 1909 then the family returned to Lancashire. if anyone can point me in the right direction to find what he was doing before and during WW1 i'd be most grateful.
Regards, giacomin