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5th September 2015, 08:47 AM
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Re: Legal Aid for Terror Suspects.
john we are tied up here with so much red tape? my wife many years ago worked in Canada her employers never applied to renew her visa 2 days later there was a knock on the door here they don't know how many people are here it could take years to track people? what is to stop people if the land of their birth if their country is stable again returning to their home land so simple its bloody annoying play the loopholes they play on us a couple of years down the line foreigners will be on the streets demanding sharia laws here and rioting if they don't get it they will bite the hands that feed them.. jp
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5th September 2015, 09:43 AM
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Re: Legal Aid for Terror Suspects.

Originally Posted by
Captain Kong
Jim it was not, .. quote,,, "Below the belt". the statement came from my Jewish friend, who has no love of Germans or the moo,slims who are taking over Europe,,
I think he has more right to say it than anyone. So there is no need for amateur dramatics on a subject that you do not understand as much as the Jewish people do who did lose family in Germany..
The Jewish people have a sense of humour far different than we have, but a sense of humour nevertheless.
Brian
Brian the number of Jewish Germans exterminated was 210.000 the total population of Jews in Germany pre-war was only 240.000.your Jewish friend has his figures wrong.Poland lost the most Jews their total being 3.000.000 which was just more than half of the total .
Regards.
Jim.B.
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5th September 2015, 10:02 AM
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every country in the so called civilised world lost lives now Germany is the super bank of Europe and Russia who lost more than all others put together is still the same hardly moved on since the war years but we still like to butcher each other we have not learned much at all from any war and never will?? jp
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5th September 2015, 12:01 PM
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One of the main jobs of any government is the security of your country, we are now in a situation where the back door of Europe is wide open, everyone pouring in, and they dont know who they are, once granted asylem, they will be given a passport and new lives, and unless we get out of Europe, able to travel here legally , the future looks black, KT
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5th September 2015, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by
JOHN PRUDEN
I never had much time for mrs thatcher but she had more balls than every other prime minister since{never thought I would make a statement like that}?? jp
John I am afraid I can never sing her praises, She had no time for this city of ours, As far as the Argies are concerned, She couldn't put that together today or sort it out because her same Tory party are slicing away at the armed forces bit by bit. There wouldn't be enough of the cake to go around my view entirely Terry.
{terry scouse}
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5th September 2015, 03:06 PM
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I was listening to an asylum seeker being interviewed yesterday from Liverpool on our local radio.He originally left Sudan because of the problems there and went to Chad.There wasn't any work in Chad so he went to Libya where he lived and worked for eight years.When the trouble started in Libya he was on one of those boats to Italy,he was in a holding camp but managed to get away and end up in Calais.He got aboard a wagon and ended up in Dover he was arrested and sent to Liverpool and given a place etc.If he has been given leave to stay here it will be on the grounds that Sudan is a bad and dangerous place and whatever else he has told the Border Agency why he had to leave Sudan.This is the punch line,he was asked would he go back to Sudan or make a new life here.He would make his new life here and in five years time when he has his new passport HE WILL GO TO SUDAN ON HOLIDAY !!!!.The place is so dangerous we granted him asylum but its not that dangerous that he can go there on holiday.
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Jim.B.
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5th September 2015, 03:15 PM
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Hi Terry I also think that if Corbin becomes leader of Labour he will be trimming more of our defences.
He said he will do away with our Nuclear deterrent for starters.
The other contenders live in cuckoo land.
Labour has no Charismatic Leader at all.
Andy Burnham is a complete flop, he said on TV the other day that he had sent a letter to Cameron, urging him to take ALL the migrants from Calais. If you do that more and more will arrive.
He was more than useless when he was Minister for Health in the last Labour government.
I had been injured and was in great pain with a broken collar bone and the Clavicular Ligaments my should all torn. I could not move or use my arm, for Eight Months , waiting for an operation. I sent Burnham a letter asking why I had to wait More than Eight months and still waiting. He replied. Quote. ... "Don't you know, you are not to write to the Minister.?"
Who the hell does he think he is? The Taxes I pay on my miserable MN Pension goes towards paying his inflated Salary and expenses. of which he was done for fiddling his taxes and had to repay some of them.
These politicians, of all parties, live in an Alice in Wonderland world.
Cameron is also a wimp, he will not make a decision unless he negotiates with Merkel and Hollande first.
I sent him an email telling him that , you do Not Negotiate with the French or Germans, you Order them.
no reply.
All this Mid East Crisis was caused by our Politicians, ..Bliar and Bush in Iraq and Afghanistan,
and Obama and Cameron , who bombed Libya and got rid of Ghaddafi and resulting in all chaos there now.
They also supported the Opposition in Syria against Assad by sending Weapons of all kinds and vehicles and body armour, Britain sent 512,000,000 pounds of weaponry. The Opposition soon turned into ISIS. now we have the biggest killing machine of all time rampaging around the Mid East, which is now creating all the migrants coming to Europe.
Cameron is also being led by the nose by Obama and sending British Troops to confront the might of the Russian Army. are they MAD, All 650 MPs should all be Sectioned under the Mental Health Act.
All politicians cause wars, not people.
All politicians have no experience of life, No politician should be in charge of any country, all they do is cause Mayhem.
I do not think that Maggie Thatcher would take any crap off the Europeans.
She did a good thing for me, when I was made redundant from my last company I signed on at the Dole office on Monday morning. They told me to sign on again on Wednesday, I said, I will not be here, I will be in Liverpool looking for a ship as there are No Seamens jobs in Bolton, all the ships are in Liverpool.
the staff, all working class people, said to me, `You do what we tell you to do.`
They told me that I would not get any unemployment benefit if I do not turn up.
I went to the pool, as I did every day looking for a ship. I got a signed letter from the Pool to prove I was there signed on.
I then got a letter saying my dole money was stopped.
I had a mortgage to pay and two lads at 6th form school to look after. and my fellow Working Class people stopped my money because I was looking for a job.
I wrote to Maggie Thatcher as she is also the head of the Civil Service.
A week later I got a letter from N0. Ten, still have it in a frame, telling me to go back in and I will be paid and back pay as well.
I went in, the working class heroes on the Counter said to me, You nearly got us the sack, I said, You should have been sacked, then you will know what it feels like on this side of the counter.
As I was going out I heard another clerk tell two Pakistani lads who were with a big fat woman who was sat down, her arms and neck covered with gold bangles, `Tell Mrs Ally there will be a Cheque in the post`
Is there one law for them and another for us?, I thought.
Brian.
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5th September 2015, 03:50 PM
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the word she for a ship in todays navy is very true women suppose to multi task better than men one modern warship can do what ten of the old type could do a carrier force is what is needed badly.. jp
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5th September 2015, 03:52 PM
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#66,
THE DEFINITION OF REFUGEE IN THE 1951 REFUGEE CONVENTION
Convention relating to the Status of Refugees, created in July 1951, defines a refugee as:
'A person who owing to a well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion, is outside the country of his nationality and is unable or, owing to such fear, is unwilling to avail himself of the protection of that country; or who, not having a nationality and being outside the country of his former habitual residence as a result of such events, is unable or, owing to such fear, is unwilling to return to it.'
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5th September 2015, 05:05 PM
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its one thing letting them in wait until a couple of years and they will be spouting what is wrong with the country that has took them in and take to the streets ?with a visa system a country can revoke and remove anyone who will not comply to the Christian laws and mix with the population there that's when the no go areas start we have them now in parts of London ? jp
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