Ab and competent crew

[cappy]

in a recent discussion between an old time AB on merchant ships and an avid sailor on yachts the discussion came up of who was more capable on deck the AB or the RYA registered COMPETENT CREW MEMBER my view as a mediator was the two jobs were entirely different .....but each was a competent seaman on the deck of his vessel.....bothhad certificates that gave them a degree of seamanship qualifications that qualified there position .....anyone on the site who has both tickets please could they give there views as the two almost combatants are daggers drawn........regards cappy in the middle

[John Pruden]

cappy this will have to be sorted when I win the euro millions I will be looking for a competent crew for my couple of million pound cruiser cappy you can be out tobies tiger he only likes short walks Brian can be skipper and I will have all Indian or Pakistani engine crew ? jp

[j.sabourn]

Just tell them cappy one is a working and professional seaman, the other does it for pleasure and considered an amateur when it comes to having to provide for family out of his take home pay. Cheers JS

[john sutton]

Just tell them cappy one is a working and professional seaman, the other does it for pleasure and considered an amateur when it comes to having to provide for family out of his take home pay. Cheers JS

remember.The titanic was built by professionals and noahs ark was built by amateurs

[cappy]

cappy this will have to be sorted when I win the euro millions I will be looking for a competent crew for my couple of million pound cruiser cappy you can be out tobies tiger he only likes short walks Brian can be skipper and I will have all Indian or Pakistani engine crew ? jp

#### i would like to join the crew of the 2 million pound yacht you will buy when you win the lottery .....on one condition you give me the keys to the booze locker ....the keys to the tarts locker.....and ban JS from both ......mind all the money he has had through his hands i believe he has a 3 million pound yacht .....a true whiskey palace .....he has imported whisky makers from scotland and turns salt water into whiskey .......it has accom for 30 nympho virgins .....of which he changes all every month ......but know matter how i try he wont have me aboard ......some mate he is ....cappy

[j.sabourn]

#4.... Shipbuilders not seamen. I had a small half cabin cruiser at one time and had to produce a skippers ticket to be able to use. Went to the relevant department and asked about getting. Was going to cost me about 500 dollars to do the course and get this piece of buerocratic bumf. I asked them who was going to examine me and when I didn't agree with the examiner as said he wasn't qualified in my eyes as said I was a professional seaman. Whereupon he asked for 5 dollars for the paperwork, and away I went. Think any professional seaman would of received the same treatment. That is the difference to a professional seaman and an amateur. Yet I agree with the fact that prior to this WA law coming out, boat owners had been sailing for 20 and 30 years without this piece of paper, makes one wonder if not just a money maker for whatever council you come under. JS

[cappy]

#4.... Shipbuilders not seamen. JS

well not much difference there one sunk and one ended high and dry on a mountain ........regards cappy

[j.sabourn]

Just shows neither could tell their Alp from Ice. JS

[cappy]

Just shows neither could tell their Alp from Ice. JS

.....not bads JS ....the old brain box still working 100 per cent .......must be all that fish you had from the old fish quay in north shields......regards cappy.....ps dont go on JPs yacht .....he wears his hat at a VERY jaunty angle....

[j.sabourn]

That's just to cover the bald patch at the back. They tell me he flies a pair of your underpants, as lost the Blue Peter when the show closed down all those years ago. Hope he had them dhobied when you gave them to him or nobody will be coming back and just stay in the pub. A sailing we will go, preferably on Tynemouth boating lake is only a couple of feet deep. Cheers JS