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28th November 2023, 08:32 AM
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Re: Danish War Sailors - Newcastle upon Tyne

Originally Posted by
Doc Vernon
just came across this one ??
Any good !?
EARL OF WARWICK (ex-THORA), hired trawler 2652 Admiralty Number
Not that one Vernon but maybe this one:
E. B. C., hired drifter, Adty No 1120. Built 1909, 60grt, Lowestoft-reg LT.309. In service 3.15?1919 as net vessel. Served as ROLETTA in WW2.
Also - https://fishingboatheritage.co.uk/lt-309-e-b-c-1913/
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28th November 2023, 08:47 AM
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Re: Danish War Sailors - Newcastle upon Tyne
Thanks Hugh
Its in this list as well. Is this where you too got it from? Just asking
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28th November 2023, 08:55 AM
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Re: Danish War Sailors - Newcastle upon Tyne
"If Blood was the price
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28th November 2023, 09:18 AM
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Re: Danish War Sailors - Newcastle upon Tyne
https://discovery.nationalarchives.g...ls/r/C13378913
Also - https://freepages.rootsweb.com/~tree...ly/breach3.htm
E.B.C. LT 364 ON 128624 Signal Letters MKMK
Carvel built, Wooden Dandy, 2 masted, Steam Drifter, Elliptical stern.
Built 1909 by J.Chambers, Lowestoft for Ezer Coleman
75.3ft x 17.6ft x 8.4ft; 15.0ft loe
34.64 nrt; 59.76 grt; 59.17 udk (old)
34.61 nrt; 59.73 grt; 59.17 udk (new)
Compound, surface condensing, D.A., inverted cylinder engine,1909 by Elliot & Garrood.
2 cyl 9ins and 19ins x 13ins stroke. 20 nhp (130 ihp); 10 knots
Vertical marine type, steel boiler, 130lbs, 1909 by Elliot & Garrood.
1909 Registered Lowestoft Nr7/1909 LT 309.
13th March 1909. Trials.
16th March 1909 Owners Ezer Coleman (64) managing owner.
1911 Re-measured.
1914 Requisitioned by the Admiralty. Dover Patrol.
27th October 1916 Damaged in Destroyer raid on Dover net lines.
2nd February 1917 Owners Frank Wm Hutchings (32) managing owner,
Stanley Arthur Waller (32)
5th January 1918 Owner Arthur James Moore (64) managing owner.
January 1919 Released by Admiralty.
16th February 1921 Owner Edwin Real Haylett (64).
19th March 1926 Registry of vessel transferred to the Port of Yarmouth.
Certificate of Registry delivered up and forwarded to the Port of Yarmouth.
17th March 1926 Owners Wm Edward Symonds (32) managing owner,
Walter John Powles (32).
23rd March 1926 Certificate of Registry delivered up and cancelled.
Advice received from the Registrar of Shipping, Yarmouth.
1926. Re-registered Yarmouth Nr5/1926 YH 240
31st January 1928 Owners John Victor Breach (32) managing owner as per
Yarmouth transcript, Walter John Powles (32).
1928. Re-registered Lowestoft Nr1/1928 LT 364.
21st September 1933 Owner Owen Radcliffe Guard (Emsworth, Hants) (64)
manging owner.
3rd October 1933 Owner George Lutely Sclater Booth (64) managing owner.
Geo L.Sclater Booth, The Priory, Odiham, Hants.
1934. Converted to a yacht and renamed ROLLETTA.
Registry closed 14.6.1946. Advice received from M.O.T. that the vessel was
requisitioned by the Minister of War Transport on behalf of his Majesty on
14th January 1942 and was no longer required to be registered.
Certificate of Registry not available.
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28th November 2023, 07:42 PM
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Re: Danish War Sailors - Newcastle upon Tyne
Great find there Hugh, as usual been really busy!
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28th November 2023, 10:50 PM
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Re: Danish War Sailors - Newcastle upon Tyne
Fantastic work of both Hugh and Doc Vernon. In the fine list above about the owners of E.B.C./Rolletta, what does (32) and (64) means after the names?
Is it possible somewhere to find a picture/painting of the good ship E.B.C./Rolletta? Kind regards Erik
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29th November 2023, 01:01 AM
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Re: Danish War Sailors - Newcastle upon Tyne
Hi Eric
Would that not be their ages! But will await Hugh on that!
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29th November 2023, 01:20 AM
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Re: Danish War Sailors - Newcastle upon Tyne
Dont know if this will have anything to do with all this Eric, but sounds like you may i say may be able to geta Pic from them??
Again will await on what Hugh thinks if it relates to the Thread!
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The staff provide an excellent service and details of owning companies including share ownership. The many fishing company official records come up with some surprises!
Information and photographs of all vessels mentioned on this thread are available from Lowestoft Record Office, in fact the details posted about the steam drifter Go Ahead appears to have been copied from information held there or is very similiar. Lowestoft fishing vessels are very easy to research thanks to many years hard work by the Port of Lowestoft Research Sociery members.
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1st March 2024, 11:38 PM
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Re: Danish War Sailors - Newcastle upon Tyne
Hi everyone! Once again thank you very much for your great help. Back to the main issue in this thread. The Cathedral in Newcastle. Could someone here have a look in the book with names of the danish seamen mentioned from WWII? Is my Rasmus Skovgaard Bertelsen one of the many names? Hope someone can figure that out? Best regards Erik
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1st March 2024, 11:57 PM
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Re: Danish War Sailors - Newcastle upon Tyne
I hope that someone on here may be able to visit the Church, and possible see if the name Mentioned is in it!
Please do reply if you may be able to do this
Thank You
North East War Memorials Project - (newmp.org.uk)
Hi Eric
Dont know what info may be on these Records but possible that it may have something of interest to you!
However its a chance you have to take on applying to get a copy! Unless you can Email the Archives and ask ??
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