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[John Arton]

Another one often used to amplify profits , but mainly to circumvent any challenges to costs to a company, was to have every ship registered as a separate company. One would only be aware of this if handling the Certificate of Registry. Would make any legal representation for damages against a ship applicable to that ship alone, or so they hoped. Don't think the Liner Companies resorted to this as wouldn't know as never saw their Cert. Of Registrations JS.

J.S.
The practice of having separate ownership for each vessel owned, in order to absolve the parent company from responsibility should one of their vessels cause a major environmental (or otherwise) tragedy (think Exxon Valdez) was one of the main driving forces behind the mandatory introduction of ISM, brought about on the insistence of the marine insurance business.
The main thrust of ISM is traceability whereby there is always one named person in any ship owning/ship management company that can be held to account in the event of any marine disaster. This person is the designated person who forms the link between the ship board management team and has access to the highest level of management (board of directors/owners) ashore.
This supposedly eliminates the owners of a number of vessels hiding behind single ship registered companies, think of all those shipping company offices in one street in Monrovia.
rgds
JA

[j.sabourn]

The P.O. box numbers were out a long time before The Exxon Valdez. I was with R.S. Dalgliesh in 1964 every ship was a different company on paper. Should imagine Runcimans was as well, although no one ever talked about it there as we were all taught to look after the company and they would look after you.
The answer to that one should have been tell it to the marines. Cheers JS

[James blake]

just reading the various threads on the various posts, and one thing has really struck me - there is nothing stranger than fact..... I just love reading these stories, getting in the way of work though

[Ivan Cloherty]

#63 Just keep taking excerpts and you'll soon reach 200,000 words

[James blake]

#63 Just keep taking excerpts and you'll soon reach 200,000 words

The problem is the real stories I'm reading are more than I could actually imagine !!

It is info like tonnage and ports of call and different tasks on board that I'm finding the most useful, a bit of jargon etc.

I've also been in touch with relatives in Aus, £10 Poms, and they've given me a bit of background, my old uncle worked in shipping - South Pacific. I was talking to an older bloke in the pub - two older blokes actually, one worked with Donaldson's out of Glasgow - fortunately I took George's number, we had a good chat, but I had too much beer and couldn't remember much the next day.
I'll take him out for a bar lunch next week, and have a notebook ready.
I'm really beginning to enjoy myself here.....

[cappy]

The problem is the real stories I'm reading are more than I could actually imagine !!

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I'm really beginning to enjoy myself here.....

##we dont tell most of it....cos nobody believes it.......cappy

[vic mcclymont]

James, In the sixties and the seventies during the fruit season all ships on charter to the SA Fruit Board sailed Europe/ SA light ship.
Regards
Vc

[Keith Tindell]

In particular with the jargon James, you will here the phrase *ringbolting*, mainly on the Aus/new zealnd coast, happy days indeed with lovely ladies, kt

[James blake]

In particular with the jargon James, you will here the phrase *ringbolting*, mainly on the Aus/new zealnd coast, happy days indeed with lovely ladies, kt

hmmmm, that sounds like it could have lots of meanings....

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##we dont tell most of it....cos nobody believes it.......cappy

they've just led sheltered lives....:

[Captain Kong]

James if you want to know about the £10 Poms, read my story in the Seafaring Stories thread in the Swinging the Lamp Forum of a voyage on the Cunard White Star Liner "GEORGIC," We took two and a half thousand out to Australia, in 1955, and the conditions they had to live in.
Cheers
Brian