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    Have not paid much attention until last night on the news where it said after 5 years, think it was 14 Pacific countries had reached a Trade agreement, but the actual bare bones of this would not be made available to the public for some time. Is this how the Lima Agreement and the European Union passed muster?? If so I think before anything is shoved on the general public they too should have their say, or are we now living in a dictatorship also. We seem to be living in a world more and more running on secrecy and not open mindedness. A bone thrown to the public via the media said that Medical drugs would be more expensive, this may just be a bone thrown at the general public knowing that they can rescind this to please everyone. One has to have a devious mind to think such, but when dealing with todays politicians nothing can be taken at face value. How any such trade agreement is going to match up with Australias philosophy of living remains to be seen, and I wouldnt mind betting the Unions are going to be the only ones to stand up and take the brunt of any fallout to come. However as this apparently has now been sealed signed and delivered as fait accompli, why hold out for a period of waiting to see the core of agreement as minimum wages etc. have apparently been decided on. As the USA is also as well as Mexico in I wonder if these countries citizens know anymore than we in Australia, or is it going to be on a grand scale when the Agreement is open for all to see at the same time. Cheers JS
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    On the same news program, the infamous Whistle Blower on the CIA and other government Departments gave an interview to I believe Panorama revealing such information that the US security depts. could switch your mobile on and off at will and listen to all conversations on and off the phone, apparently is easy to fit mobiles as necessary with such devices, so doubtless all emails and email sites are also being monitered, which most suspected in any case, that's why if you want any government to know your feelings just put it on your computer. The Mobiles however I wasn't aware of and pleased I don't carry one as could have maybe been caught out in some compromising situations. JS
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    Listen to the PM Turncoat today on the subject, on the face of it a good deal has been done for Oz. This began when Howard was PM some 10 years ago, we now live in a global village where there is no where to hide so we either go along with the concepts of some politicians or we perish. we might still do that anyway. But the fact remains there needs to be some radical changes in Oz regarding wages, penalty rates and employers on costs if we are to survive.
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    I know some of those penalty rates that were dropped John, and in all fairness they were extra ordinary and expensive and un-deserved. Although they were very good to have, in all fairness they were a bit over the top. For example in the early 90"s ships that had been working on the Aussie coast on time charter and manned by Australian crews were usually picked up in Australia and returned to Singapore after charter finished. The manning on the coast was down to the usual minimum, but on taken back to Singapore a 3.5 days run went back up to a full complement. Arriving Singapore everyone was entitled to 3 days ( previously had been 5, I was told) R n R, hotel and 100 dollars a day spending money. Also on joining in Singapore anything over 8 hours travelling time had a night in Hotel. The travel time one I was in agreeance with as joining a strange ship and taking straight to sea wanted to be up to the mark. The 3 days RnR was a bit over the top especially for the extra crew there for a 3.5 day passage. However the lot went including the joining rest period, and was hop on and stay on. Went from the sublime to the ridiculuous. There were of course other goodies that the unions had fought for, to me the Australian seamen had a good deal going even without the 3 days RnR. What else they have lost I dont know, but do know they are better paid than other National running ships. However with good wages come hefty tax bills which anything over 50,000 dollars a year and one was into the 49 percent bracket, so was seesaws and roundabouts. Cheers JS PS I am in agreeance though Australian citizens for Australian jobs. JS
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    john s. sorry I never read you thread about pacific signing if doc could put mine as a post if he could in this thread again sorry just woke up brain is no awake yet bad night?? jp

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    Many years ago I came across a website the Club of Rome (no not the church). It envisaged three large blocks, the EU, Pacific countries and Asian.
    It's all been prearranged, your pollies like ours will lie through their back teeth to get what they want.
    Look at the EU as an example, corrupt undemocratic, lies and more lies to get what it wants.
    You Aussies have been warned.
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    This is the most insidious group ever, a secret organisation that wants a world government.
    The Bilderberger. interesting reading.....................it also includes some of Britains Politicians. Gordon Brown, Ed Balls, and many others.......
    It is scary that these animals have so much Power.....................
    Brian
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    “The True Story of the Bilderberg Group” and What They May Be Planning Now

    A Review of Daniel Estulin's book



    By Stephen Lendman

    Global Research, May 25, 2014

    Global Research 1 June 2009


    Region: USA

    Theme: Global Economy


    "The True Story of the Bilderberg Group" and What They May Be Planning Now

    For over 14 years, Daniel Estulin has investigated and researched the Bilderberg Group’s far-reaching influence on business and finance, global politics, war and peace, and control of the world’s resources and its money.

    His book, “The True Story of the Bilderberg Group,” was published in 2005 and is now updated in a new 2009 edition. He states that in 1954, “the most powerful men in the world met for the first time” in Oosterbeek, Netherlands, “debated the future of the world,” and decided to meet annually in secret. They called themselves the Bilderberg Group with a membership representing a who’s who of world power elites, mostly from America, Canada, and Western Europe with familiar names like David Rockefeller, Henry Kissinger, Bill Clinton, Gordon Brown, Angela Merkel, Alan Greenspan, Ben Bernanke, Larry Summers, Tim Geithner, Lloyd Blankfein, George Soros, Donald Rumsfeld, Rupert Murdoch, other heads of state, influential senators, congressmen and parliamentarians, Pentagon and NATO brass, members of European royalty, selected media figures, and invited others – some quietly by some accounts like Barack Obama and many of his top officials.

    Always well represented are top figures from the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), IMF, World Bank, Trilateral Commission, EU, and powerful central bankers from the Federal Reserve, the ECB’s Jean-Claude Trichet, and Bank of England’s Mervyn King.

    For over half a century, no agenda or discussion topics became public nor is any press coverage allowed. The few invited fourth estate attendees and their bosses are sworn to secrecy. Nonetheless, Estulin undertook “an investigative journey” that became his life’s work. He states:

    “Slowly, one by one, I have penetrated the layers of secrecy surrounding the Bilderberg Group, but I could not have done this withot help of ‘conscientious objectors’ from inside, as well as outside, the Group’s membership.” As a result, he keeps their names confidential.

    Whatever its early mission, the Group is now “a shadow world government….threaten(ing) to take away our right to direct our own destinies (by creating) a disturbing reality” very much harming the public’s welfare. In short, Bilderbergers want to supplant individual nation-state sovereignty with an all-powerful global government, corporate controlled, and check-mated by militarized enforcement.

    “Imagine a private club where presidents, prime ministers, international bankers and generals rub shoulders, where gracious royal chaperones ensure everyone gets along, and where the people running the wars, markets, and Europe (and America) say what they never dare say in public.”

    Early in its history, Bilderbergers decided “to create an ‘Aristocracy of purpose’ between Europe and the United States (to reach consensus to rule the world on matters of) policy, economics, and (overall) strategy.” NATO was essential for their plans – to ensure “perpetual war (and) nuclear blackmail” to be used as necessary. Then proceed to loot the planet, achieve fabulous wealth and power, and crush all challengers to keep it.

    Along with military dominance, controlling the world’s money is crucial for with it comes absolute control as the powerful 19th century Rothschild family understood. As the patriarch Amschel Rothschild once said: “Give me control of a nation’s money and I care not who makes its laws.”

    Bilderbergers comprise the world’s most exclusive club. No one buys their way in. Only the Group’s Steering Committee decides whom to invite, and in all cases participants are adherents to One World Order governance run by top power elites.

    According to Steering Committee rules:


    “the invited guests must come alone; no wives, girlfriends, husbands or boyfriends. Personal assistants (meaning security, bodyguards, CIA or other secret service protectors) cannot attend the conference and must eat in a separate hall. (Also) The guests are explicitly forbidden from giving interviews to journalists” or divulge anything that goes on in meetings.

    Host governments provide overall security to keep away outsiders. One-third of attendees are political figures. The others are from industry, finance, academia, labor and communications.

    Meeting procedure is by Chatham House Rules letting attendees freely express their views in a relaxed atmosphere knowing nothing said will be quoted or revealed to the public. Meetings “are always frank, but do not always conclude with consensus.”

    Membership consists of annual attendees (around 80 of the world’s most powerful) and others only invited occasionally because of their knowledge or involvement in relevant topics. Those most valued are asked back, and some first-timers are chosen for their possible later usefulness.

    Arkansas governor Bill Clinton, for example, who attended in 1991. “There, David Rockefeller told (him) why the North American Free Trade Agreement….was a Bilderberg priority and that the group needed him to support it. The next year, Clinton was elected president,” and on January 1, 1994 NAFTA took effect. Numerous other examples are similar, including who gets chosen for powerful government, military and other key positions.

    Bilderberg Objectives

    The Group’s grand design is for “a One World Government (World Company) with a single, global marketplace, policed by one world army, and financially regulated by one ‘World (Central) Bank’ using one global currency.” Their “wish list” includes:

    – “one international identify (observing) one set of universal values;”

    – centralized control of world populations by “mind control;” in other words, controlling world public opinion;

    – a New World Order with no middle class, only “rulers and servants (serfs),” and, of course, no democracy;

    – “a zero-growth society” without prosperity or progress, only greater wealth and power for the rulers;

    – manufactured crises and perpetual wars;

    – absolute control of education to program the public mind and train those chosen for various roles;

    – “centralized control of all foreign and domestic policies;” one size fits all globally;

    – using the UN as a de facto world government imposing a UN tax on “world citizens;”

    – expanding NAFTA and WTO globally;

    – making NATO a world military;

    – imposing a universal legal system; and

    – a global “welfare state where obedient slaves will be rewarded and non-conformists targeted for extermination.”

    Secret Bilderberg Partners

    In the US, the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) is dominant. One of its 1921 founders, Edward Mandell House, was Woodrow Wilson’s chief advisor and rumored at the time to be the nation’s real power from 1913 – 1921. On his watch, the Federal Reserve Act passed in December 1913 giving money creation power to bankers, and the 16th Amendment was ratified in February creating the federal income tax to provide a revenue stream to pay for government debt service.

    From its beginnings, CFR was committed to “a one-world government based on a centralized global financing system….” Today, CFR has thousands of influential members (including important ones in the corporate media) but keeps a low public profile, especially regarding its real agenda.

    Historian Arthur Schlesinger, Jr. called it a “front organization (for) the heart of the American Establishment.” It meets privately and only publishes what it wishes the public to know. Its members are only Americans.

    The Trilateral Commission (discussed below) is a similar group that “brings together global power brokers.” Founded by David Rockefeller, he’s also a leading Bilderberger and CFR Chairman Emeritus, organizations he continues to finance and support.

    Their past and current members reflect their power:

    – nearly all presidential candidates of both parties;

    – leading senators and congressmen;

    – key members of the fourth estate and their bosses; and

    – top officials of the FBI, CIA, NSA, defense establishment, and other leading government agencies, including state, commerce, the judiciary and treasury.

    For its part, “CFR has served as a virtual employment agency for the federal government under both Democrats and Republicans.” Whoever occupies the White House, “CFR’s power and agenda” have been unchanged since its 1921 founding.

    It advocates a global superstate with America and other nations sacrificing their sovereignty to a central power. CFR founder Paul Warburg was a member of Roosevelt’s “brain trust.” In 1950, his son, James, told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee: “We shall have world government whether or not you like it – by conquest or consent.”

    Later at the 1992 Bilderberg Group meeting, Henry Kissinger said:


    “Today, Americans would be outraged if UN troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow, they will be grateful. This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all people of the world will plead with world leaders to deliver them from this evil….individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by their world government.”

    CFR planned a New World Order before 1942, and the “UN began with a group of CFR members called the Informal Agenda Group.” They drafted the original UN proposal, presented it to Franklin Roosevelt who announced it publicly the next day. At its 1945 founding, CFR members comprised over 40 of the US delegates.

    According to Professor G. William Domhoff, author of Who Rules America, the CFR operates in “small groups of about twenty-five, who bring together leaders from the six conspirator categories (industrialists, financiers, ideologues, military, professional specialists – lawyers, medical doctors, etc. – and organized labor) for detailed discussions of specific topics in the area of foreign affairs.” Domhoff added:

    “The Council on Foreign Relations, while not financed by government, works so closely with it that it is difficult to distinguish Council action stimulated by government from autonomous actions. (Its) most important sources of income are leading corporations and major foundations.” The Rockefeller, Carnegie, and Ford Foundations to name three, and they’re directed by key corporate officials.

    Dominant Media Partners

    Former CBS News president Richard Salant (1961 – 64 and 1966 – 79) explained the major media’s role: “Our job is to give people not what they want, but what we decide they ought to have.”

    CBS and other media giants control everything we see, hear and read – through television, radio, newspapers, magazines, books, films, and large portions of the Internet. Their top officials and some journalists attend Bilderberg meetings – on condition they report nothing.

    The Rockefeller family wields enormous power, even though its reigning patriarch, David, will be 94 on June 12 and surely near the end of his dominance. However, for years “the Rockefellers (led by David) gained great influence over the media. (With it) the family gained sway over public opinion. With the pulse of public opinion, they gained deep influence in politics. And with this politics of subtle corruption, they are taking control of the nation” and now aim for total world domination.

    The Bilderberger-Rockefeller scheme is to make their views “so appealing (by camouflaging them) that they become public policy (and can) pressure world leaders into submitting to the ‘needs of the Masters of the Universe.’ ” The “free world press” is their instrument to disseminate “agreed-upon propaganda.”

    CFR Cabinet Control

    “The National Security Act of 1947 established the office of Secretary of Defense.” Since then, 14 DOD secretaries have been CFR members.

    Since 1940, every Secretary of State, except James Byrnes, has been a CFR member and/or Trilateral Commission (TC) one.

    For the past 80 years, “Virtually every key US National Security and Foreign Policy Advisor has been a CFR member.

    Nearly all top generals and admirals have been CFR members.

    Many presidential candidates were/are CFR members, including Herbert Hoover, Adlai Stevenson, Dwight Eisenhower, John Kennedy, Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter (also a charter TC member), George HW Bush, Bill Clinton, John Kerry, and John McCain.

    Numerous CIA directors were/are CFR members, including Richard Helmes, James Schlesinger, William Casey, William Webster, Robert Gates, James Woolsey, John Deutsch, George Tenet, Porter Goss, Michael Hayden, and Leon Panetta.

    Many Treasury Secretaries were/are CFR members, including Douglas Dillon, George Schultz, William Simon, James Baker, Nicholas Brady, Lloyd Bentsen, Robert Rubin, Henry Paulson, and Tim Geithner.

    When presidents nominate Supreme Court candidates, the CFR’s “Special Group, Secret Team” or advisors vet them for acceptability. Presidents, in fact, are told who to appoint, including designees to the High Court and most lower ones.

    Programming the Public Mind

    According to sociologist Hadley Cantril in his 1967 book, The Human Dimension – Experiences in Policy Research:

    Government “Psycho-political operations are propaganda campaigns designed to create perpetual tension and to manipulate different groups of people to accept the particular climate of opinion the CFR seeks to achieve in the world.”

    Canadian writer Ken Adachi (1929 – 1989) added:


    “What most Americans believe to be ‘Public Opinion’ is in reality carefully crafted and scripted propaganda designed to elicit a desired behavioural response from the public.”

    And noted Australian academic and activist Alex Carey (1922 – 1988) explained the three most important 20th century developments – “The growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy.”

    Web of Control

    Numerous think tanks, foundations, the major media, and other key organizations are staffed with CFR members. Most of its life-members also belong to the TC and Bilderberg Group, operate secretly, and wield enormous power over US and world affairs.

    The Rockefeller-Founded Trilateral Commission (TC)

    On page 405 of his Memoirs, David Rockfeller wrote:


    “Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”

    In alliance with Bilderbergers, the TC also “plays a vital role in the New World Order’s scheme to use wealth, concentrated in the hands of the few, to exert world control.” TC members share common views and all relate to total unchallengeable global dominance.

    Founded in 1973 and headquartered in Washington, its powerful US, EU and East Asian members seek its operative founding goal – a “New International Economic Order,” now simply a “New World Order” run by global elites from these three parts of the world with lesser members admitted from other countries.

    According to TC’s web site, “each regional group has a chairman and deputy chairman, who all together constitute the leadership of the Committee. The Executive Committee draws together a further 36 individuals from the wider membership,” proportionately representing the US, EU, and East Asia in its early years, now enlarged to be broadly global.

    Committee members meet several times annually to discuss and coordinate their work. The Executive Committee chooses members, and at any time around 350 belong for a three-year renewable period. Everyone is a consummate insider with expertise in business, finance, politics, the military, or the media, including past presidents, secretaries of state, international bankers, think tank and foundation executives, university presidents and selected academics, and former senators and congressmen, among others.

    Although its annual reports are available for purchase, its inner workings, current goals, and operations are secret – with good reason. Its objectives harm the public so mustn’t be revealed. Trilaterals over Washington author Antony Sutton wrote:


    “this group of private citizens is precisely organized in a manner that ensures its collective views have significant impact on public policy.”

    In her book, Trilateralism: The Trilateral Commission and Elite Planning for World Management, Holly Sklar wrote:

    Powerful figures in America, Europe, and East Asia let “the rich….safeguard the interests of Western capitalism in an explosive world – probably by discouraging protectionism, nationalism, or any response that would pit the elites of one against the elites of another,” in their common quest for global dominance.

    Trilateralist Zbigniew Brzezinski (TC’s co-founder) wrote in his Between Two Ages – America’s Role in the Technotronic Era:


    “people, governments and economies of all nations must serve the needs of multinational banks and corporations. (The Constitution is) inadequate….the old framework of international politics, with their sphere of influence….the fiction of sovereignty….is clearly no longer compatible with reality….”

    TC today is now global with members from countries as diverse as Argentina, Ukraine, Israel, Jordan, Brazil, Turkey, China and Russia. In his Trilaterals Over America, Antony Sutton believes that TC’s aim is to collaborate with Bilderbergers and CFR in “establishing public policy objectives to be implemented by governments worldwide.” He added that “Trilateralists have rejected the US Constitution and the democratic political process.” In fact, TC was established to counter a “crisis in democracy” – too much of it that had to be contained.

    An official TC report was fearful about “the increased popular participation in and control over established social, political, and economic institutions and especially a reaction against the concentration of power of Congress and of state and local government.”

    To address this, media control was essential to exert “restraint on what newspapers may publish (and TV and radio broadcast).” Then according to Richard Gardner in the July 1974 issue of Foreign Affairs (a CFR publication):

    CFR’s leadership must make “an end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece,” until the very notion disappears from public discourse.

    Bilderberg/CFR/Trilateralist success depends on finding “a way to get us to surrender our liberties in the name of some common threat or crisis. The foundations, educational institutions, and research think tanks supported by (these organizations) oblige by financing so-called ‘studies’ which are then used to justify their every excess. The excuses vary, but the target is always individual liberty. Our liberty” and much more.

    Bilderbergers, Trilateralists and CFR members want “an all-encompassing monopoly” – over government, money, industry, and property that’s “self-perpetuating and eternal.” In Confessions of a Monopolist (1906), Frederick C. Howe explained its workings in practice:


    “The rules of big business: Get a monopoly; let Society work for you. So long as we see all international revolutionaries and all international capitalists as implacable enemies of one another, then we miss a crucial point….a partnership between international monopoly capitalism and international revolutionary socialism is for their mutual benefit.”

    In the Rockefeller File, Gary Allen wrote:


    “By the late nineteenth century, the inner sanctums of Wall Street understood that the most efficient way to gain a monopoly was to say it was for the ‘public good’ and ‘public interest.’ “

    David Rockefeller learned the same thing from his father, John D., Jr. who learned it from his father, John D. Sr. They hated competition and relentlessly strove to eliminate it – for David on a global scale through a New World Order.

    In the 1970s and 1980s, Trilateralists and CFR members collaborated on the latter’s “1980 Project,” the largest ever CFR initiative to steer world events “toward a particular desirable future outcome (involving) the utter disintegration of the economy.” Why so is the question?

    Because by the 1950s and 1960s, worldwide industrial growth meant more competition. It was also a model to be followed, and “had to be strangled in the cradle” or at least greatly contained. In America as well beginning in the 1980s. The result has been a transfer of wealth from the poor to the rich, shrinkage of the middle class, and plan for its eventual demise.

    The North American Union (NAU)

    The idea emerged during the Reagan administration in the early 1980s. David Rockefeller, George Schultz and Paul Volker told the president that Canada and America could be politically and economically merged over the next 15 years except for one problem – French-speaking Quebec. Their solution – elect a Bilderberg-friendly prime minister, separate Quebec from the other provinces, then make Canada America’s 51st state. It almost worked, but not quite when a 1995 secession referendum was defeated – 50.56% to 49.44%, but not the idea of merger.

    At a March 23, 2005 Waco, Texas meeting, attended by George Bush, Mexico’s Vincente Fox, and Canada’s Paul Martin, the Security and and Prosperity Partnership (SPP) was launched, also known as the North American Union (NAU). It was a secretive Independent Task Force of North America agreement – a group organized by the Canadian Council of Chief Executives (CCCE), the Mexican Council on Foreign Relations, and CFR with the following aims:

    – circumventing the legislatures of three countries and their constitutions;

    – suppressing public knowledge or consideration; and

    – proposing greater US, Canadian and Mexican economic, political, social, and security integration with secretive working groups formed to devise non-debatable, not voted on agreements to be binding and unchangeable.

    In short – a corporate coup d’etat against the sovereignty of three nations enforced by hard line militarization to suppress opposition.

    If enacted, it will create a borderless North America, corporate controlled, without barriers to trade or capital flows for business giants, mainly US ones and much more – America’s access to vital resources, especially oil and Canada’s fresh water.

    Secretly, over 300 SPP initiatives were crafted to harmonize the continent’s policies on energy, food, drugs, security, immigration, manufacturing, the environment, and public health along with militarizing three nations for enforcement.

    SPP represents another step toward the Bilderberg/Trilateralist/CFR goal for World Government, taking it one step at a time. A “United Europe” was another, the result of various treaties and economic agreements:

    – the December 1951 six-nation European Coal and Steel Community (ECSC);

    – the March 1957 six-nation Treaty of Rome establishing the European Economic Community (EEC);

    also the European Atomic Energy Commission (EAEC) by a second Treaty of Rome;

    – the October 1957 European Court of Justice to settle regional trade disputes;

    – the May 1960 seven-nation European Free Trade Association (EFTA);

    – the July 1967 European Economic Community (EEC) merging the ECSC, EAEC and EEC together in one organization;

    – the 1968 European Customs Union to abolish duties and establish uniform imports taxing among EEC nations;

    – the 1978 European Currency Unit (ECU);

    – the February 1986 Single European Act revision of the 1957 Treaty of Rome; it established the objective of forming a Common Market by December 31, 1992;

    – the February 1992 Maastricht Treaty creating the EU on November 1, 1993; and

    – the name euro was adopted in December 1995; it was introduced in January 1999 replacing the European Currency Unit (ECU); euros began circulating on January 2002; they’re now the official currency of 16 of the 27 EU states.

    Over half a century, the above steps cost EU members their sovereignty “as some 70 to 80 per cent of the laws passed in Europe involve just rubber stamping of regulations already written by nameless bureaucrats in ‘working groups’ in Brussels or Luxembourg.”

    The EU and NAU share common features:

    – advocacy from a influential spokesperson;

    – an economic and later political union;

    – hard line security, and for Europe, ending wars on the continent between EU member states;

    – establishment of a collective consciousness in place of nationalism;

    – the blurring of borders and creation of a “supra-government,” a superstate;

    – secretive arrangements to mask real objectives; and

    – the creation of a common currency and eventual global one.

    Steps Toward a North American Union

    – the October 4, 1988 Free Trade Agreement (FTA) between the US and Canada, finalized the previous year;

    – at the 1991 Bilderberg meeting, David Rockefeller got governor Bill Clinton’s support for NAFTA if he became president;

    – on January 1, 1994, with no debate under “fast-track” rules, Congress approved WTO legislation;

    – in December 1994 at the first Summit of the Americas, 34 Hemispheric leaders committed their nations to a Free Trade of the Americas agreement (FTAA) by 2005 – so far unachieved;

    – on July 4, 2000, Mexican president Vincente Fox called for a North American common market in 20 years;

    – on February 2001, the White House published a joint statement from George Bush and Vincente Fox called the “Guanajuato Proposal;” it was for a US-Canada-Mexico prosperity partnership (aka North American Union);

    – in September 2001, Bush and Fox agreed to a “Partnership for Prosperity Initiative;”

    – the September 11, 2001 attack gave cover to including “security” as part of a future partnership;

    – on October 7, 2001, a CFA meeting highlighted “The Future of North American Integration in the Wake of Terrorist Attacks; for the first time, “security” became part of a future “partnership for prosperity;” also, Canada was to be included in a “North American” agreement;

    – in 2002, the North American Forum on Integration (NAFI) was established in Montreal “to address the issues raised by North American integration as well as identify new ideas and strategies to reinforce the North American region;”

    – in January 2003, the Canadian Council of Chief Executives (CCCE – composed of 150 top CEOs) launched the “North American Security and Prosperity Initiative” calling for continental integration;

    – in April 2004, Canadian prime minister Paul Martin announced the nation’s first ever national security policy called Securing an Open Society;

    – on October 15, 2004, CFR established an Independent Task Force on the Future of North America – for a future continental union;

    – in March 2005, a CFR report titled Creating a North American Community called for continental integration by 2010 “to enhance, prosperity, and opportunity for all North Americans;” and

    – on March 23, 2005 in Waco, Texas, America, Canada and Mexico leaders launched the Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP) – aka North American Union (NAU).

    Secretive negotiations continue. Legislative debate is excluded, and public inclusion and debate are off the table. In May 2005, the CFR Independent Task Force on the Future of North America published a follow-up report titled Building a North American Community – proposing a borderless three-nation union by 2010.

    In June and July 2005, the Dominican Republic – Central America Free Trade Agreement (DR-CAFTA) passed the Senate and House establishing corporate-approved trade rules to further impoverish the region and move a step closer to continental integration.

    In March 2006, the North American Competitiveness Council (NACC) was created at the second SPP summit in Cancun, Mexico. Composed of 30 top North American CEOs, it serves as an official trilateral SPP working group.

    Secret business and government meetings continue so there’s no way to confirm SPP’s current status or if Barack Obama is seamlessly continuing George Bush’s agenda. In an earlier article, this writer said:

    SPP efforts paused during the Bush to Obama transition, but “deep integration” plans remain. Canada’s Fraser Institute proposed renaming the initiative the North American Standards and Regulatory Area (NASRA) to disguise its real purpose. It said the “SPP brand” is tarnished so re-branding is essential – to fool the public until it’s too late to matter.

    Bilderbergers, Trilaterists, and CFR leaders back it as another step toward global integration and won’t “stop until the entire world is unified under the auspices and the political umbrella of a One World Company, a nightmarish borderless world run by the world’s most powerful clique” – comprised of key elitist members of these dominant organizations.

    In April 2007, the Transatlantic Economic Council was established between America and the EU to:

    – create an “official international governmental body – by executive fiat;

    – harmonize economic and regulatory objectives;

    – move toward a Transatlantic Common Market; and

    – a step closer to One World Government run by the world’s most powerful corporate interests.

    Insights into the 2009 Bilderberg Group Meeting

    From May 14 – 17, Bilderbergers held their annual meeting in Vouliagmeni, Greece, and according to Daniel Estulin have dire plans for global economies.

    According to his pre-meeting sources, they’re divided on two alternatives:

    “Either a prolonged, agonizing depression that dooms the world to decades of stagnation, decline and poverty (or) an intense but shorter depression that paves the way for a new sustainable world order, with less sovereignty but more efficiency.”

    Other agenda items included:

    – “the future of the US dollar and US economy;”

    – continued deception about green shoots signaling an end to recession and improving economy later in the year;

    – suppressing the fact that bank stress tests were a sham and were designed for deception, not an accurate assessment of major banks’ health;

    – projecting headlined US unemployment to hit 14% by year end – way above current forecasts and meaning the true number will be double, at minimum, with all uncounted categories included; and

    – a final push to get the Lisbon Treaty passed for pan-European (EU) adoption of neoliberal rules, including greater privatizations, fewer worker rights and social benefits, open border trade favoring developed over emerging states, and greater militarization to suppress civil liberties and human rights.

    After the meeting, Estulin got a 73-page report on what was discussed. He noted that “One of Bilderberg’s primary concerns….is the danger that their zeal to reshape the world by engineering chaos (toward) their long term agenda could cause the situation to spiral out of control and eventually lead to a scenario where Bilderberg and the global elite in general are overwhelmed by events and end up losing their control over the planet.”

    Estulin also noted some considerable disagreement between “hardliners” wanting a “dramatic decline and a severe, short-term depression (versus others) who think that things have gone too far” so that “the fallout from the global economic cataclysm” can’t be known, may be greater than anticipated, and may harm Bilderberger interests. Also, “some European bankers (expressed great alarm over their own fate and called the current) high wire act ‘unsustainable.’ ”

    There was a combination of agreement and fear that the situation remains dire and the worst of the crisis lies ahead, mainly because of America’s extreme debt level that must be resolved to produce a healthy, sustainable recovery.

    Topics also included:

    – establishing a Global Treasury Department and Global Central Bank, possibly partnered with or as part of the IMF;

    – a global currency;

    – destruction of the dollar through what longtime market analyst Bob Chapman calls “a stealth default on (US) debt by continuing to issue massive amounts of money and credit and in the process devaluing the dollar,” a process he calls “fraud;”

    – a global legal system;

    – exploiting the Swine Flu scare to create a WHO global department of health; and

    – the overall goal of a global government and the end of national sovereignty.

    In the past, Estulin’s sources proved accurate. Earlier, he predicted the housing crash and 2007 – 2008 financial market decline, preceded by the kind of financial crisis triggered by the Lehman Brothers collapse. Watch for further updates from him as new information leaks out on what the world’s power elites have planned going forward.

    Estulin will be the featured guest on The Global Research News Hour Tuesday, June 2. He can be heard live or afterwards through the program archive.

    Stephen Lendman is a Research Associate of the Centre of Research for Globalization. He lives in Chicago and can be reached at lendmanstephen@sbcglobal.net.

    Also visit his blog site at sjlendman.blogspot.com and listen to The Global Research News Hour on RepublicBroadcasting.org Monday – Friday at 10AM US Central time for cutting-edge discussions with distinguished guests on world and national issues. All programs are archived for easy listening.

    Jennifer Loewenstein, Peter Dale Scott, Dahr Jamail, & Ellen Brown on the Global Research News Hour on RBN | Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization

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    Scary, no wonder our various leaders pay lip service to exiting the EU.
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    For your entertainment ooops! For your information.





    Debunking the Bilderberg Myth, The Anti-deformation League (ADL)

    ADL has received inquiries about conspiracy theories regarding the Bilderberg group, a legitimate business entity with ties to Europe and America. The following information from the ADL's Civil Rights Information Center debunks a recurring myth, circulated via the Internet, that the group is part of a conspiracy to promote a "new world order" under their control.

    Deriving its name from the Dutch hotel where it first met in 1954, the Bilderberg group is an actual, legitimate entity whose members consist of approximately 100 influential European and American figures in politics, business and academia who meet annually to discuss and advocate political, diplomatic and economic policies.

    Various far-right extremists and conspiracy theorists, however, charge that the group is a shadowy force seeking to control world events, exerting allegedly dominating powers of international influence to promote a "new world order" under their control. The extremists claim that Presidential candidates of both major U.S. political parties are controlled by the Bilderberg group; among those often mentioned in such conspiracy-oriented propaganda are David Rockefeller, the Clintons and Henry Kissinger. Other Bilderberg leaders are said to be members of the Trilateral Commission and the Council on Foreign Relations -- groups which themselves are often central players in far-right conspiracy theories of secret efforts at domination of the world's political and financial institutions and the press. Such charges about the Bilderberg group were a regular feature in The Spotlight, the recently-defunct weekly tabloid of the far-right, anti-Semitic Liberty Lobby.




    Has the Bilderberg Group lost the sinister, world-controlling plot?

    By Robert Colvile World Last updated: May 30th, 2014


    The annual meeting of the Bilderberg Group used to be the high point of the conspiracy calendar. Every year, the world’s elite would apparently meet in secret conclave and determine – amid the exchange of sinister smiles and knowing winks – the course of the future. Would the government in Luxembourg tack to the Left or Right? Would the price of frozen concentrated orange juice rise or fall? Would corduroy make a comeback? All this was within their power to determine.

    Bilderberg-mania was kicked off by the journalist Jon Ronson, who wrote a brilliantly entertaining account of crawling through hotel shrubbery alongside the obsessives determined to pierce its veil of secrecy. The group was said to have launched the career of Margaret Thatcher; to control fleets of black helicopters; even to be secretly composed of giant shape-shifting lizards, bent on ruling the world.

    So it’s something of a comedown to see its current state. A body whose natural meeting place would appear to be a hollowed-out island volcano is this weekend slumming it in the Copenhagen Marriott. Not that there’s anything wrong with the Marriott, but it doesn’t exactly scream supreme might and power – more business traveller with a pleasantly plump expense account. Even the inevitable calls on Twitter for the chain to be boycotted, to punish it for accommodating such sinister activity, barely picked up a head of steam.

    This isn’t to say, of course, that Bilderberg isn’t still a hot ticket. The guest list is thronged with CEOs, politicians and dignitaries – here a Queen of Spain, there a Supreme Allied Commander Europe. Should the head of BP or the SIS want to have a quiet word with Henry Kissinger and the editor-in-chief of The Economist, or the chairman of the Greek central bank hope to borrow a few billion from the founder of LinkedIn, they will have no better opportunity.

    But while the guest list is certainly top-drawer, it’s no more impressive than any of a dozen similar beanfeasts. There is no Bill Clinton, and neither of the George Bushes. David Cameron has decided to give it a miss after last year (when he only had to travel to Watford – again, hardly the most glamorous or secretive locale). George Osborne and Ed Balls will be there, but Justine Greening, the only other Cabinet-level minister in attendance, is hardly spoken of as a potential PM.

    Part of the fascination of Bilderberg was always the disconnect between the terrifying rhetoric about a sinister new world order, and the identities of the movement’s leading figures: if Ken Clarke and Denis Healey were neo-fascist conspirators, they were doing a very good job of hiding it (that, or the conspiracy’s main focus was a concerted effort to empty the planet’s whisky supplies).

    And sure enough, once the group agreed to let a little daylight in on the magic – in order to defuse some of the wilder conspiracy talk – it turned out that there wasn’t as much magic as people thought. Just a group of supremely accomplished networkers, and old pals from the international elite, doing what came naturally.

    For the conspiracy theorists, of course, it’s the greatest trick the devil ever pulled: by revealing where it’s meeting, and who’s going to be there, Bilderberg makes itself seem inoffensive and harmless, even though (they insist) it’s anything but.

    Yet that’s not actually the most interesting thing that’s happening here. On its website – which appeared as part of the nothing-to-see-here publicity drive – the group says its conference is designed “to foster dialogue between Europe and North America”. But Europe and North America don’t matter as much as they used to.

    Only this week, the President of the United States gave a speech that sounded a qualified retreat from the world, or at least from the use of force to shape it. And if we Europeans can’t kick Putin out of Crimea, or find jobs for the millions of youngsters thrown on to the dole by the failure of the euro, how can we presume to dictate to the rest of the planet?

    It’s hard to avoid the feeling that if there really are secret meetings in secret rooms that determine the fate of the world, they’re taking place on the other side of it – inside the politburo in Beijing, or the anonymous factories where Tim Cook of Apple meets with his suppliers.

    True, the World Economic Forum in Davos still has a certain cachet as the ultimate cocktail party for the ruling elite – but only because it has done its best to adopt a more global tone. And even then its guest list cannot possibly encompass every single mover and shaker who’s out there.

    In fact, while some power has shifted to the East, much of it has simply dispersed. Today’s world is so complicated and hydra-headed that no one actor, or even group of actors, can control it.

    It’s telling that Bilderberg-mania reached its peak shortly before the destruction of the Twin Towers, and subsided shortly after. In the wake of 9/11, and Afghanistan, and Iraq, and the financial crisis, the idea that global events can be dictated (or rather, successfully dictated) by a small group of white-skinned men in a First World banqueting suite looks increasingly quaint.

    People cling to the conspiracy theory because they want to believe that someone is capable of controlling things – to believe that men like John Pierpoint Morgan, who could start or halt Wall Street panics with a flick of their moustache, are still out there. But even for hyper-intelligent, shape-shifting lizards, bringing order to our chaotic world would be a bridge too far.

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    Bilderberg - Debunking



    There are many more, plus many from conspiracy theorists who eat this crap up. Back in the 1960s there was an ultra right wing Republican group known as the "John Birch Society." A neighbor of mine asked me to attend a meeting with him. I, never having heard of this group, agreed to attend. What a lot of cods wallop! A guest speaker told the audience about this ultra secret organization known as the "Illuminati," which was made up of masons, top business leaders, bankers and so on who's goal was "One World Government." I was in my twenties and I had enough sense to get up and walk out on such utter rot.

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    I agree totally about the Mason lot, obviously what one doesn't know about one makes up. Does show however the usefulness of propaganda which we see daily on our TV sets. One of the basic tenets of freemasonry is to obey the laws of the country you reside in. There are Freemasons of every nationality and religion, and is a fraternity of men and not religion for starters. Out of the probable millions of masons worldwide they all have the same basics which is their foundation ''Charity". Any other reference to is complete disinformation. If any banker is a freemason that is his prerogative, whatever he does in his work is not done under the banner of Masonry. As to suggest that freemasons are an insidious group taking control of the world re-echoes the sounds of Hitlers public views on such. Freemasons are comprised of men from every walk of life from the lowest to the highest, so I doubt if the humble street sweeper is a member of a world take over branch of the mafiosa. Whenever secrecy is involved the masons name comes up, anyone wanting to know should ask one, join and find out for yourself. all you need is a proposer and seconder and have no criminal record. In fact had never heard of the illumanati before the well known fiction writer started writing such epics about the freemasons, which incidentally did the Craft a lot of good by increasing its membership, hope they weren't disappointed and disappeared again thinking they were going to see such forms as described in fiction book form. Cheers JS
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