Where ships go to die

[Ivan Cloherty]

I think we are wasting our time Ivan,.

Cheers
Brian

You are of course correct Brian, at least in the messroom you learnt when to stop and such childish retorts would not have been tolerated, but not having been in the messroom Keith would not understand that, so we must forgive him his trespasses.

[Keith at Tregenna]

I think we are wasting our time Ivan,.

Cheers
Brian

Only replied quite nicely to those that throw stones. K

[vic mcclymont]

So Keith what is wrong with Fracking , enlighten me

--tremors.

Rob, Trouble in this country is that there is very vocal minority who will object to anything that does not fit in with their loopy credentials. And lo and behold confronted by the vocal minority the big boys back down.

[Keith at Tregenna]

Right or wrong, respect your view. K

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you are of course correct brian, at least in the messroom you learnt when to stop and such childish retorts would not have been tolerated, but not having been in the messroom keith would not understand that, so we must forgive him his trespasses.

i fully understand: Stand up for anti bullying and you should know better.

k.

[robpage]

Re 38 , thank you Ivan , but after forty five years as an engineer , I developed a thick skin , the man who really deserved an apology is William , who was accused of being drunk in charge of his cafe in Fleetwood and has never been seen since . Now I must google moon phases

[j.sabourn]

#23...... Cappy... Name was Carl Davison... Nickname was Humph. The mate at time you were there may have been Jordan from South Shields, another apprentice that was there but didnt survive till 57 I think was a Craig Walwyn, he skinned out and if still alive was living in Canada. Seeing Humph who is a year younger than me makes one realize there is always someone worse off than yourself. He"s been almost chairbound for a number of years now. Is also quite partial to a good bottle of wine. Cheers John S

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Ref. 46.. I have found that the people ashore take umbrage very quickly. Are slighted and see things there that dont exist. Half of what I see ashore would never have survived at sea, at least not on the ships I was on. They think, work, and react totally different to what one was used to. If you didnt at some time during the day at sea receive some sort of abuse which was another way of expressing your closeness under sometimes extremely difficult circumstances, you would of thought there was something wrong. One of the reasons why I say I could pick out a seafarer amongst a bunch of fifty, by his demeanour, and his attitude to the company he was in, apart from Cappy who would have his seaboots on and would pick out without having to listen to, too long. Abuse amongst men was not abuse as is now stated in the bill of rights or whatever these changers of the world would have it. Engineers had to be thick skinned because all the abuse they got, everyone thought they were deaf working amongst noisy machinery, some werent too far gone so probably heard more than they should. There maybe some of us could claim for being abused, eveyone else is, or is that just sexual, no doubt it will get round to us when we are no longer here. Cheers John S

[robpage]

SORRY John what did you say ?

[Neil Morton]

My !My! I did not realize that a video clip could start such a furore. I just thought it was a sad but interesting sight of so many ships awaiting the "Knackers Yard".

[j.sabourn]

Rob when you were issued with ear mufflers by the generosity of your employers(so they couldnt be held resposible for your hearing aids) did they not tell you with the instructions that came with them that you took them off when going to bed. Also when in the shower. Would you beleive I sat at a 3 hour lecture on ear defenders and if you dont change the inserts every week or so are useless. Also for different parts of The ER have different ear muffs for different frequencies and noise levels. So you should still have a good case for your loss of hearing. However would forget to tell them that you like wearing them permanetly to stop all the crap that goes on around you. Cheers John S PS Often wondered when changing ear muffs in certain parts of ER, the ears would be undefended for a length of time, and might even claim this is negligence on the part of the company. I reckon the people who make cotton wool should also have a go at the manufacturers of ear muffs, for the fall off in their share prices they caused. JS

[robpage]

The first time I saw or was issued with ear muffs was on ferries with medium speed diesels , especially when they where in multiple arrangements , the levels between the engines by the Turbo Blowers was over 130 dB , We had a problem getting comfort packs and had some awful types , the Bilsom ones were lightest and best to use . I had a hearing test in the early 1980s and am deaf in a range of 26 KH , which does not affect much at all , in the inner ear there is a spiral arrangement with hairs that senses the sound , in the 26kH range mine are damaged . This coincides with the turbo lower revs , there is not enough damage to bother suing , and the company is long gone . It is just a consequence of what we did , and half the time ex never bothered wearing them and lived with the noise