scottish politics

[vic mcclymont]

What day is it Keith???????????????

[Keith at Tregenna]

And there is me thinking I am being taught banter by pros ? I know where my bread is buttered: Latvia ?

Ha Ha K.

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What day is it Keith???????????????

Know what your getting at, hoped for some humour on site. the deadline was midday / noon.

K.

[gray_marian]

#27 Ron, I assumed the term Sassenach applied to as you say a Lowland Scot but included the English and Irish also?.

[Keith at Tregenna]

Early 18th century (as a noun): from Scottish Gaelic Sasunnoch, Irish Sasanach, from Latin Saxones 'Saxons'.

Guess who they meant were the Saxons ?

CLUE:

Sassenach is a word used chiefly by the Scots to designate an Englishman

[1] It derives from the Gaelic Sasunnach meaning, originally, "Saxon". The modern Scottish spelling is 'Sasannach'. As employed by Scots or Scottish English-speakers today it is usually used in jest, as a (friendly) term of abuse. The Oxford English Dictionary (OED) gives 1771 as the date of the earliest written use of the word in English.

Sasanach, the Irish-language word for an Englishman, has the same derivation, as do the words used in Welsh to describe the English people (Saeson, sing. Sais) and the language and things English in general: Saesneg and Seisnig. These words are normally, however, used only in the Irish and Welsh languages themselves.

Cornish, another British Celtic language (previously extinct, though undergoing a mini-revival) also terms English "Sawsnek", likely from the same derivation.

In James Joyce's Ulysses, Buck Mulligan refers to Haines, a British guest in the Martello tower with them, as "the Sassenach."
james s i take it your going to tell us all your answer to this question????????
thanks for the thumbs down i take it the internet is wrong as normal again lol

Sas= A Saxon
sen= an Englishman
ach= a Lowlander

[John Arton]

We can blame the Romans for all of this.
There is an interesting program on the Beeb written and presented by the M.P. for Penrith, who actually seems quite genuine. Its called Middle England.
He calls this the area from the Humber up to and including the Scottish borders.
Prior to the Romans invading Britain the whole of Britain was basically many small nations ruled by various kings etc. Once the Romans invaded they started integrating all these tribes into their cultures and this integration slowly extended further North but increasingly the further north they got was over the Firth of Forth.
Due to the distance from Rome and the refusal of these Northern tribes to succumb to Roman rule the Emperor Hadrian retreated from present day Scotland and arbitrarily drew a line across Britannia, as they called the whole of the U.K., from the Wash to the Tyne and then built Hadrian's wall. Until the Romans eventually left Britannia south of Hadrian's wall was considered civilised with roads, forts, bath houses and villas whilst north of the wall was considered un-civilised. This was obviously b.s. as up until the wall was built the land was inhabited by the same indigenous people.
Following on from after the Romans retreat this area known as middle Britain became the fount of most modern day culture. Writings from Bede and the likes spread throughout Europe resulting in the growth of many of the now European cultures.
So that's it, a bloody Italian centuries ago caused us all this hassle with numptys like Salmond claiming that Scots are a different race and as such deserve their independence when in actual fact if you go back far enough in time most of us come from the same genetic pool and mixture of same.
Damm those Ities.
rgds
JA

[Captain Kong]

John Please do not tell me I may have Itie blood.
I know I do have Viking blood, I did my family tree and go back 1500 years to the Vikings in Ormskirk
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I certainly do not want Itie blood, dont know where it has been.I may end up like Berlisconi with all kinds of young ladies after me.
Brian

[Ron B Manderson]

are you wishing the dolly birds Brian
Ron the batcave

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Lets face it.
The old Scottish saying " Ah "were all jock Tamsons bairns"
Ron the batcave

[j.sabourn]

Or I ken wha ya mean but my ##### too wee.. JS

[Keith Tindell]

Brian ref 37, you will only get young ladies after us like Berlisconi, at our age it takes loads of dosh!, and mines all gone on my old lady KT

[happy daze john in oz]

John Please do not tell me I may have Itie blood.
I know I do have Viking blood, I did my family tree and go back 1500 years to the Vikings in Ormskirk
.
I certainly do not want Itie blood, dont know where it has been.I may end up like Berlisconi with all kinds of young ladies after me.
Brian

If you were he you would be cahsing them no doubt