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    Crew Member Dies During Mooring Operation — A Tragic Reminder of the Importance of Safe Practices and Proper Training
    By: Seafarer Social

    A crew member tragically lost his life during a mooring operation while attempting to heave in a tug’s towline using a messenger line and the ship’s warping drum. The incident occurred on the aft mooring deck of a cargo vessel during what should have been a standard towing arrangement. Instead, the combination of poor seamanship, improper equipment use, and lack of procedural adherence led to a fatal outcome.

    The operation began with the tug passing its steel tow wire—44mm in diameter and weighing approximately 7.8 kg per meter—via a messenger line connected to the vessel’s own line. The crew attempted to heave in the tow wire using a warping drum, taking eight to ten turns of the messenger line, far more than the standard three to four turns typically recommended to gain traction safely. As the drum rotated, the turns accumulated on the outboard end due to a poor lead angle, and the line eventually formed riding turns.

    As the operation continued, the tail end of the messenger line was pulled back into the drum area, where it formed a loose loop around the crew member’s neck. Within moments, the crew member collapsed and was later declared dead at the port due to a fracture dislocation of the cervical spine.

    Key Findings from the Incident Report:

    -The messenger line was led through the pedestal fairlead from the wrong direction, causing damage to hydraulic pipes and contributing to the unsafe angle of the operation.

    -The crew failed to follow basic line-handling procedures. Up to ten turns were taken on the warping drum, and the tail end of the line was not properly backed up or controlled.

    -No stopper was applied to hold the tow wire once the towing eye reached the bitts, creating further hazards during the transition.

    -The aft mooring team demonstrated a lack of fundamental seamanship and failed to recognize the risks involved in their approach.

    -The layout of the aft mooring deck offered no obvious safe method to retrieve a tow wire through the center lead, reflecting poor equipment and deck design.

    -The tug’s mate had attempted to alert the crew to the risks and urged them to use the winch properly, but these warnings were not followed.

    This incident serves as a stark reminder that mooring operations, though routine, carry significant risk when handled improperly. The design of mooring stations, the condition and configuration of equipment, and—most importantly—the competency of the personnel involved must all be aligned to ensure safety.

    Proper training in line handling, familiarity with the equipment’s intended use, and adherence to safe mooring practices are not optional—they are essential. Shipowners, managers, and training providers must continue to emphasize safety not just through policies but through regular drills, mentorship, and a commitment to seamanship at all levels.

    Seafarer Social shares this case not to assign blame, but to encourage learning, awareness, and proactive safety culture across the industry. Every loss is one too many. Let us not wait for another incident before taking action.

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    Can never recall hearing of this at all during my time at sea. One big question that was not raised? Was winch manned at the controls and if so why the feck did he not turn it of. Not to mention ten turns on the drum end. Would have had my backside kicked from the stern stations to the bow stations if I had tried that. This is the result of them cutting corners and employing people without a brain.
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    Bloody hell when is it going to end and they wake up to the fact that they have fecked up big time. Seems lack of maintenance might be the cause of running into bridges hey

    Two people have been killed and at least 19 others injured after a tall Mexican Navy training sailing ship crashed into New York City's Brooklyn Bridge.

    Police said the Cuauhtémoc, with 277 people on board, lost power on Saturday as the captain was manoeuvring the vessel, forcing it to head for the bridge abutment on the Brooklyn side.

    Footage shows the ship's towering masts clip the bridge as it passed under the structure. Crew members were standing on the masts as they snapped and fell to the deck, authorities said.

    Brooklyn resident Nick Corso, who witnessed the accident, said the area erupted in panic. There was "lots of screaming, some sailors hanging from the masts," he told AFP.
    That's the way the mop flops.

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    2 killed after Mexican Navy tall ship smashes into Brooklyn Bridge

    Surely the Captain could have known that the Ships Masts were far too high!
    Oh what a shambles!
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    I would imagine this would be a compulsory pilotage area and the master would have to declare his air draft. Someone has got their sums wrong. JS
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    Why no escort tug yet again , did they learn nothing from Baltimore. Trump will blame the Mexicans saying it was an attack on our nation. Seriously are they really that thick over there.

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    [QUOTE=Doc Vernon;441467][URL="https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/05/17/mexican-navy-sailing-ship-hits-brooklyn-bridge/83704506007
    Surely the Captain could have known that the Ships Masts were far too high!
    Oh what a shambles!
    Thank Les!
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    The vessel lost power whilst heading for the centre channel which had the largest air draft and the vessel would have passed safely underneath. with no power the tide forced her towards shore side where the airdraft under the bridge was lower thus fouling her masts. When the vessel lost power the Master or Mate should have cleared the masts and yards of all personnel. There would have been a pilot on board, but as yet we do not know the full circumstances of avoiding action taken (if any) such as dropping both anchors, but in some if not nearly all ports now, that is forbidden because of all the underwater pipelines and service lines criss crossing the river beds, so there were probably few actions the Master or Pilot could have taken to alleviate the situation.

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    I think there was. I saw a video on Facebook taken at altitude with a large tug a few metres on the ship’s starboard side as they were going under the bridge. The tug did not appear to have any lines on the ship or taking any action to slow its progress.

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    #1 I had a similar could have been experienced as well if left unattended. I did the Guarantee Drydock of a new building built in Japan a ship called the Maratha Envoy. The Drydocking was 6 months late so the ship was only 18:month old. There were two main complaints to be rectified and headed the docking list. One was the tying up facilities aft. This was a 3700O ton geared bulk carrier. One bobbin was supplied for a lead for one rope leading from mooring winch to fairlead ,so could only work one stern or breast line at a time, it was an accident waiting to happen. The Japanese balked at putting in a second lead bobbin as said they would have to cut into the deck and insulation above the steering flat , I said rubbish and told them and even measured up for them and what to do. I said the existing bobbin pedestal crop off about 8 inches off the top, weld a reinforced flat plate on top of the pedestal and sight two bobbins in line with the mooring winch and fair leads on both sides of the vessel. They were over the moon with such a simple job and I couldn’t do nothing wrong with them after that. The Japanese are not as smart as most people think , but they have always been good copiers. The other main job was discharging ballast , again they said it was human error so they tried unsuccessfully, I then took them down the DB tanks and explained to them that the ballast lines had to have the usual bell mouths fitted around the end otherwise you were just sucking air on the last 100 tons or so , also explaining that the upper wing tanks did not require this as had drop valves fitted and were dropped directly to the sea. That got me a private car with chauffeur every night going ashore. The hired engineering superintendant think he thought I was taken
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    Hi Les
    I used to take pictures of all the Sailing ships that came into Sydney, I also sailed on some, and know how helpless they would be if having to use engines in a close situation and they failed, it looks like it's engine either failed or the wind was to strong to combat the amount of sail being carried and was to close to the bridge for the crew to come off the masts before it hit, looks like only a very short distance from clearing to hitting. One would think the tug master would have taken action and attempted to push her to the centre span.
    Des

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