Duties of Deck boy /JOS

[cappy]

[QUOTE=kenneth goode;327536]Hey cappy get my facts right idont need to get my facts right you are spiting rivets all over the place and missing the hole
the man was asking about deck boy duties instead of saying I don't know Rob comes away with a load of nonsense about Indians
.[/QUO#####no one here spitting rivets except yourself ......give us your discharge book number if you had one .....you have been asked to provide it but no answer.......as for spitting rivets ......i would think with your attitude you were not at sea long before you were spitting teeth lol cappy

[Keith at Tregenna]

The lascars: Britain's colonial sailors

https://www.ourmigrationstory.org.uk...al-era-sailors

[Ken Trehearne]

Good informative string here as I've learned something today. Have not previously heard of a Steering Ticket. From 1948 Deck Boy to later QM the only tickets held were EDH and Lifeboat though spent as many hours at the wheel as any other. Clearly missed another piece of paper in my distant past.

Ken T
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[Keith Tindell]

I can remember my very first trip to sea, 1958, crossing the Atlantic to Newfoundland, going up to the bridge in the evening to get some steering in for said ticket, unpaid of course, most of the ABs were saying for me to do it in there trick at the wheel, although they still had to stand there for the 2 hours to monitor me. so it sounds like it might have been a thing that all had to do. thinking back now to the hours steering in the early days for me, no iron mike. Do you all remember the first time you took the wheel to bring her alongside, i think i was a JOS, but maybe it was a SOS, felt ten foot tall, kt

[Peter Ashworth]

Peter,I suggest you read my article entitled 'My fist trip' it will give you an idea of the duties and trials of a Deck boy at about that time.


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http://www.merchant-navy.net/forum/n...5427-trip.html

Read your article John ,great read this is just the sort of reason why he joined and experience I imagine my dad had when he went in the merchant navy ,he must have seen and experienced things that my generation will never see.

[j.sabourn]

#26... The summary on lascar crews may appear as a romantic time of the shipping industry and played up as so, on at least one ship I was on was no better than slavery. Today. They are still being used to help build the profits of the mercantile investor. We get all this rubbish about Nelson having investments in slaves. Today you have worse you have cheap labour which is paid a mininum wage only when it is producing , when not working or sick it is discarded . At least with a slave owner it was to his own benefit to look after his slaves in sickness and in health. People get used due to their circumstances in life. These preachers in our forefathers being slave owners and evil, should start directing their barbs to their more modern counterparts . It is world wide and has various names apart from slave owners. JS

[Keith at Tregenna]

Were not many lascars deemed higher than deck boys ?

K.

[j.sabourn]

#27... Ken a steering cert. was not an official cert. of competency. It was issued by the ship and the only thing official about it was the ships stamp. It stipulated that you had completed I think 12 hours on the wheel steering the vessel and appeared competent, or words to that effect. It was part of every deck seafarers progress reports you might say. Would probably be asked for as well as a lifeboat cert. when applying for an ABs certificate which was official, the same as an EDHs. JWS

[j.sabourn]

#31. Never saw the rating of deck boy on any Indian ship . There. Again might of been different on British ships of the old eastern traders . Kalassi 1 And 2 were the only actual deckmen I knew. They did not even drive a winch , you had a winch walla for that. Every man to his own job. That’s why you carried big crews , you needed them. If you were of the old colonial school you may have called them boy , but it was not in reference to their age. JS

[Des Taff Jenkins]

Good informative string here as I've learned something today. Have not previously heard of a Steering Ticket. From 1948 Deck Boy to later QM the only tickets held were EDH and Lifeboat though spent as many hours at the wheel as any other. Clearly missed another piece of paper in my distant past.

Ken T
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Hi Ken.
I never heard of it until I think Terry mentioned it a few years ago, I assumed I got my steering ticket while at the Vindicatrix on the launch in 49
Cheers des

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Hi Peter.
Do you know if your dad went to a sea school? He may have gone the the most prolific one the Vindicatrix in Sharpness.
Des