Death of Innocence.

[David E Hewson]

. Just ask yourself why the people of Palestine allowed Hamas to live and act among themand apparently cheered them on in their quest for victory over Israel. f JS

Just ask yourself why Israelis allow Netanyahu and his far right Zionist buddies to live amongst them and cheer on the illegal settlers murdering West bank citizens on an almost daily basis !!

[j.sabourn]

#136. Your last paragraph about Al Quaida and the IRA fits the bill of one of my factual posts about an IRA cell discovered in Southhampton and my hopefully having a small part to playing in it. Briefly on discovering a handwritten notebook in the public phone box of a motel on the ourskirts of the city and reading it before calling in the police, it described money being transferred from Saudi , the hire of a bombadier , the purchase of a ground to air missile, and mention of Morning Cloud. So the reader can make his own assumptions. I was thanked by the police and the only time was in contact with same.I did however read in
Our ever vigilant press the arrest of an Irish bomb cell in Southhampton not too long after.
JS.
See post Shipping Problems #16. 12 December 2020. JS.

[David E Hewson]

"n 1917 Weizmann and a small group of Zionists, in what Ahron Bregman called "a brilliant exercise of sustained persuasion, lobbying, and influence", persuaded the British government to publish the Balfour Declaration[6] which supported "the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people."[2] (Weizmann later became the first President of the State of Israel.)[6] Leaders of Board of Deputies of British Jews and of the Anglo-Jewish Association considered the Balfour Declaration a "veritable calamity" that would stamp "the Jews as strangers in their native lands."

Interesting piece of history .
DH

[j.sabourn]

#137 once again the voice of the media , how about all the Palestinians living and working legitimately in Israel what’s their views ,? if they have any that is. Netanyahu was voted and elected p.m.of his country , and to me as an outsider it appears to me he is doing his job to make the situation not to return as was , before the illegal operations of a rat infested organization. Job and finish describes it as the best answer . I am not a fence jumper like Vichy France . And neither are any other true beleivers of whatever they hold as beliefs. JS

[happy daze john in oz]

Israel has what it calls an 'Iron dome' over the country.
They have one of the best surveillance in the world along with one of the best spy rings.
Yet with all of this HAMAS was able to launch the attack it did.
How may Israelis killed, depends on which media you view, one said 200 the next 1200!!

It begs the question, was Israel just looking for an excuse to invade Gaza, and that is what it is, an invasion.
How convenient the systems failed when they did!!

Now the head of the army is saying Israel must devise rules for the rebuilding and control of Gaza!!

Who is kidding Who on this one??

[James Curry]

Me offended?
Hell would freeze over before I took offence!
Me polite?
Shock to me and to my mates, if ever they heard "being polite" being attributed to me!
Me moaning?!
Only at delusional idiots? No names, no pack drill - but I'll wager you know who!

PS - I always enjoy my evenings - but you still haven't answered my question about Al Quaida and the IRA, old son!
Still mulling it over?!

Not mulling over anything.
Seeing as you are on about FACTS
Bin Laden family , one time big mates with a certain George W Bush.FACT

1 Para regiment, shot dead 11 civilians over a 36 hour period in Ballymurphy, all unarmed. During a recent court case all those killed declared as totally innocent.FACT.
1 Para – the same unit sent into the Bogside in Derry 30th Jan 1972 the Paras again shot dead 13 innocent unarmed civil rights marchers.FACT

Understandable why the Provos decided to hit back big time.
Eighteen British soldiers were killed and over twenty were seriously injured, making it the deadliest attack on the British Army during the Troubles, that was also the same day as Mountbatten was mudered along with or innocents onboard the boat.

Mountbatten was well advised to stay away from the Republic of Ireland. Obviously he thought he was untouchable.

By 1998, the year the Good Friday or Belfast Agreement settled the conflict, more than 3,600 people had died.

Yet you keep harping on about 7 horses.
Enough from me .
Go find someone else to argue with.

[David E Hewson]

Terrorism as they call it is today a full time career and many take up as a profession as have no intellect of their own , if they are classed as a terrorist they should receive the same treatment as a dog with rabies. JS

"With the outbreak of World War II, militant actions by the Irgun against the British were halted, but one of the leaders of the group, Avraham Stern, insisted that the fight must go on, leading to a split in the Irgun which led to the formation of a new group, Lehi (also known as the Stern Gang or Stern Group).[6] [7] In 1944, the Irgun, now headed by Menachem Begin resumed attacks on the British."

So while British troops were fighting to liberate Europe from the Nazis, including the concentration camps,Jewish terrorists ( including a future prime minister)were
busy attacking our soldiers in Palestine !!

Terrorism
The main terrorist groups were Irgun Zvai Leumi (National Military Organisation) - ultimately led by future Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin - and an even more militant organisation, Lohamey Heruth Israel (Fighters for the Freedom of Israel) or LHI.

The British called LHI the Stern Gang after its leader, Abraham Stern, who was killed in a clash with the Palestine Police in 1942. In November 1944, LHI
assassinated the British Minister for the Middle East, Lord Moyne.

DH

[j.sabourn]

And did you know that William Joyce was hanged by the neck until dead. His crime disloyalty to his country and distributing false and misleading information in his daily newscasts called propoganda . Maybe today it may curb some of the diahroea distributed in a similar manner. Don’t believe he personally killed anyone either. He was however probably responsible for the suicide of his brother a spitfire pilot in the RAF. And also Mussolini was hanged by his heels from a lamppost after being disposed of by his own people. JS
PS Believe I met Albert Pierrepoint when I was a nipper shortly after the war , if it was today I would have shook his hand and say well done !!! JS……..

[Des Taff Jenkins]

John #140
The Palestinians living in Israel have probably been there hundreds of years. They're views if asked, would be why are the Israelis bulldozing our houses and shooting us, I doubt they voted for Hamas as they vote for their reps in the Israel Parliament.
Des

[j.sabourn]

The 13 tribes of Israel have also lived there for at least 2000 years . Apart from holidays in Egypt , Babylon, and the Death Camps of Germany and other parts of The Reich under their control. There were always others living there also. However today has culminated like Hitler culminated by greed for domination of other lands, and The likes of Babylon with its comparative new religion as a shield and excuse has with its modern name of for Babylon and its religion as an excuse has seen the light. What it has yet to see is beyond the light is darkness. JS