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6th September 2023, 01:58 AM
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Re: Cruise ship in Fowey
And yet Des that can go the other way , I said to one elderly mate coming out of a Wallsend Shipyard do you want to take her out to sea , oh no he says that’s your job I don’t get paid to do that. On the stand by boats nearly all the deck crew the 4 of them were only too willing to Relieve me or the mate on watch. In fact the night the P.A. Blew up if it had happened 10 minutes later I wouldn’t have been there as would have been getting a break by the coxn of the frc and am sure he would have coped. JS
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6th September 2023, 06:16 AM
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Re: Cruise ship in Fowey
All ships in and out of Port Melbourne must have a pilot on board.
On all cruise ships we have been on we have been able to see the pilot go off, usually from a gun port door of some sort and down the Jacobs.
Time of leaving can vary from a couple of knots from land to as many as 40 depending on the port.
Would have thought the town would be happy, tourists of this kind bring in a fair bit of money to local business.
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6th September 2023, 08:00 AM
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Re: Cruise ship in Fowey

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Ivan Cloherty
John from reports I've read and information gleaned from various sources the custom in the cruise industry is for the pilot to bring her off the berth or anchorage and the Master or his/her nominated deputy then brings the vessel alongside or up to the hook, which makes common sense to me. .
Forgot to add that most cruise ships don't bother to anchor now as they use the DPS to keep them on station and that would explain the always pristine anchor fleet, but that raises another question do you put up the anchor ball or not?
For non seafarers
a 'fleet' is a paint stage width.
A 'paint stage' is a wooden board about 12 -15 feet long by 12" wide, on which us silly buggers had to sit/stand and paint the ships hull whilst try not to fall into the briny
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6th September 2023, 08:00 AM
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Re: Cruise ship in Fowey
It seems others are reacting to similar situations.
In the news, Venice is intending to charge visitors a fiver for doing their thing. This is due to the City being wrecked by too many people.
Sounds a bit like Khans ULEZ charge, you can only ruin the place if you pay. Why don't they just ban cruise ships from visiting Venice?
I think I know the answer to that one.
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6th September 2023, 09:45 AM
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Re: Cruise ship in Fowey
# 13 Another argument for the lawmakers , maybe another Rule of the Road ? , our time was “ A vessel is under way when she is not at anchor made fast to the shore or aground.”
Or maybe there is already one there already , How many Rules are there now 32 when I left
21 years ago . Cheers JS
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6th September 2023, 07:59 PM
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Re: Cruise ship in Fowey

Originally Posted by
Ivan Cloherty
Forgot to add that most cruise ships don't bother to anchor now as they use the DPS to keep them on station and that would explain the always pristine anchor fleet, but that raises another question do you put up the anchor ball or not?
For non seafarers
a 'fleet' is a paint stage width.
A 'paint stage' is a wooden board about 12 -15 feet long by 12" wide, on which us silly buggers had to sit/stand and paint the ships hull whilst try not to fall into the briny
I have this one in my collection Ivan. Falling into the briny would be preferable to bouncing off the quay.
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6th September 2023, 09:33 PM
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Re: Cruise ship in Fowey

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Bill Morrison
I have this one in my collection Ivan. Falling into the briny would be preferable to bouncing off the quay.
Nice one Bill, looks like painting the name
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7th September 2023, 01:48 AM
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One of the last times I painted a ships side, I was 70, my mate is a Turk, very funny bloke. I'm in the front.
Des
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7th September 2023, 06:22 AM
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Re: Cruise ship in Fowey
Getting back to the Rule of the Road ,or better known for some obscure reason as the Articles , during my time I had to learn two different sets , fortunately when they were again tampered with I did not learn them parrot fashion as was finished with examinations on such. I rather think there were 28 in the first lot and 32 in the second which I did learn to repeat and put in the commas and punctuation marks , the first lot learned included a one on fishing vessels off the coast of Korea was. Considered by most the hardest to recite as contained tri coloured lanterns and their different angles of visibility. The second lot included seaplanes on the water , but for some reason left out or I can’t remember them , fishing vessels off the coast of Korea ? Anyone with a better memory than me remember ?
The Korean fishing vessels were either Rule 9 or Rule 15 the two longest at the time. That’s where the word Articles came from remember now ,the Rules were called Article 12 3 etc. JS
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7th September 2023, 06:33 AM
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Re: Cruise ship in Fowey
The hook is often used when not possible to dock.
Many ports only shuttle service.
As to rust on them, some are in a bad way.


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