50 years ago.

[j.sabourn]

#7... Nearly didn't recognize the Nigerian National Lines posh name was always known to us as Nig Nash. JS

[robpage]

That I believe was called the Lima agreement where the developed world agreed to give manufacturing to the third world countries to help them increase their economy if you read on from the Lima agreement we gave an awful lot away and didn't have a lot of it come back I don't know the politics behind it but at the end of the day we threw out the baby with the bathwater

[happy daze john in oz]

In many instances the unions were the very best friends of the shipping companies.

Their practices were at best very poor and at worst totally illegal.

Companies seeing much of their profits gone by 'shrinkage' at dock side were happy to see the container.
Pack your own and ship it to the quay and it was cost effective.
Shipping companies wee quite happy as it reduced their costs.

Strikes and stoppages at some ports, and here in Oz some of the worst, made it unprofitable for so many companies.

On a 10,000 ton ship with 52 crew makes me wonder now how they could even think of a profit!

Ten days to load one hold with chilled mutton, 36 hours to unload in Greece, with numerous strikes inbetween.

[Ivan Cloherty]

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[j.sabourn]

That has happened to me few times as well Ivan. Do you think it could be outside influences.? JWS

[Ivan Cloherty]

That has happened to me few times as well Ivan. Do you think it could be outside influences.? JWS

Seems I'm now back on track from my punishment!

[vic mcclymont]

Not often I'll defend Labour.wilson didn't decide to scrap the TSR2 his policies did in a round about way.
The TSR2 was the world most advanced plane and the Americans were shot scare of it and its capabilities.
The UK was bankrupt under Labour and sought loans from the IMF, the Americans would only back a loan if TSR2 and the Blue Streak missile production was scrapped.
Wilson to his credit promised the Yanks that the UK would only saw both to friends.
The yanks refuse to budge and Wilson was forced to scrap both in order to get the loan.
Vic

[Lewis McColl]

Vic, the Blue Streak missile was scrapped.In 1955, Britain began developing a long-range liquid-fuelled missile, the Blue Streak programme. Designed to deliver nuclear weapons, as part of Britain’s independent nuclear capability, work focused on producing an intermediate range missile. This single stage silo-based missile was intended to have a range of 2,500 miles.
In 1960, however, the Blue Streak programme was scrapped.(Wilson or Labour did not come into power until 1964) The British Cabinet Defence Committee were reluctant to spend an addition £600m on top of the £65m already spent for a delivery system that proved to be militarily inadequate after testing.
The main problem with the Blue Streak was that it was launched from fixed sites, which took up to thirty minutes to prepare for launch. Vulnerable to Soviet attacks and suffering from escalating costs, Britain’s independent nuclear missile programme floundered.
Although Blue Streak’s life as a military weapon had ended in 1960, it was immediately assigned to the European Launcher Development Organisation (ELDO) project. This utilised the Blue Streak rocket as the first-stage of a composite space vehicle designed to deploy satellites in orbit. This project was intended as a European to challenge the American and Russian monopoly on satellite launchers.
In 1967 Britain announced that it would pull out of the ELDO programme in 1971. The last Blue Streak programme launch was on 12th January 1970 and the last ELDO Blue Streak launch was carried out in French Guyana in 1971. By April 1973 the ELDO project was cancelled and replaced with the European Space Agency that is running to this day.
This film charts the story of Blue Streak from its first static firing of the rocket engines to the first flight test in Australia on June 5 1964. Four other first-stage launches were carried out successfully, but test launches of second and third stages proved unsuccessful.

the TSR-2 https://hushkit.net/2012/05/14/the-b...bing-the-myth/

The scrapping of the TSR-2 had nothing to do with the Americans or an IMF loan , the IMF loan was not applied for until 1976.

[robpage]

Blue Streak was to be the replacement for the stand off bomb started in 1963 the air launched ( from V-Bombers ) Blue Steel a mach 3 missile launched outside of the range of the SAM air defences , it carried the Red Snow warhead in service until 1970's when Polaris took over both the British missiles were 1950's designs both too expensive , Blue Streak vulnerable to pre-emptive strikes , Blue steel vulnerable to air to air , the US built Skybolt was cheaper and sad to say better , The TSR-2 only had one prototype and as elegant as it looked the weight gain in development meant it failed to reach it's design specification , the first Olympus engine blew up on test , with a fractured shaft , the dost overruns were huge , it first flew late 1964 , Dennis Healey and Harold Wilson flew to he US and bought F-111 scrapping the TSR-2 program in 1965

in 1965 the IMF granted Great Britain a $1.4 billion loan , Wilson and Healey , with US backing , same time as the F-111C order . the 1976 loan was $3.9 billion , but the 1967 devaluation was 40c in the pound


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[vic mcclymont]

Sorry Lewis, the TSR2 was scrapped becauseof American influence and the countries need for money.
I worked next to the RR factory in Glasgow and that was the version circulated by management.
There were 3 TSR2 built