A few details about my dad

[Robert George Young]

very interesting....I will speak to my brother about this....thankyou

[Robert George Young]

MORE SHIPS......SS CASLON 1951...EMPRESS OF SCOTLAND 1950.....MS PALOMARES 1949
More ships......MV PHOTINIA 1972.....MV ST ANGUS 1972.. .MV SHORHAM ...1971

[gray_marian]

Hi Robert, do you have a subscription for Ancestry and if so is it UK based or world wide?

[j.sabourn]

Robert go to the little magnifying glass at the top of the page and type in My worse Xmas at sea then click on the magnifying glass. Look for the post and see if the dates match up. The person who wrote the Article may be of assistance it is your best shot at the moment. JS

[John Arton]

#18... I was on the Rosewood in 1973. PS after the ship was cleared out the latter part of 72 the crowd that joined in Rotterdam was from Dock Street did you father come from this pool . JS

J.S.
Again going off at a tangent (steering gear up the duff again). I sailed with a Captain Nicotine in C.P., think it was in the early 80's. He came from Norfolk and was a bit of A STRANGE GUY. Believe he had been born in India where his father was high up in the Indian Rail system. He was always going on about ski trips with his Army friends. The worst thing though was that he had just gone through a bitter divorce. They had one child, a girl, and he could not understand how his wife objected to the fact that she was expected to dress for dinner each night as they sat at each end of their 20ft cherry wood dining table. After all he had bathed their daughter and spent his required time of 1 hour per day reading to her before putting her to bed, so surely wife had had ample time to shower, dress and do her make up before sitting down, did she not?
WE were going up to Hamburg in dense fog and as Mate I had to spend hours on the bridge with him while he ranted constantly about his ex. wife who had taken half his house and to whom he was having to pay maintenance to along with support for the child. He had apparently chosen his wife (a barmaid in a swanky pub) on looks more than anything else and expected her to change an conform to his way of thinking and life style. I had wife with me that trip and there were also other wife's and children on board so having to listen to him for hours on end was very trying. Strange thing was though he as brilliant with the kids on board, going ashore in Hamburg and buying a number of remote control cars and organising races with them up and down the alleyways.
On an old C.P. site I saw a note that he had died in 2000 or so, don't think he was very old when he passed.
rgds
JA

[Robert George Young]

Marian, call me Bob, thanks

I joined in 2012 but probably lost enthusiasm because I didnt
Have a lot of time then.
I have more now and want to an interest in my father's naval career
I think it must have been uk based as I live in Jersey in the Channel Islands

[Robert George Young]

MORE SHIPS......SS CASLON 1951...EMPRESS OF SCOTLAND 1950.....MS PALOMARES 1949
More ships......MV PHOTINIA 1972.....MV ST ANGUS 1972.. .MV SHORHAM ...1971

Beginning to get the pieces together
I didn't know he worked on passenger ships

[Doc Vernon]

http://forums.clydemaritime.co.uk/do...0111&mode=view

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Palomares

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:E..._troopship.jpg

History of the Atlantic Cable & Submarine Telegraphy - British Insulated Callenders (Submarine) Cables Ltd

Motor Vessel SAINT ANGUS built by Scott & Sons in 1936 for J. & A. Gardner & Co. Ltd., Glasgow, Coaster

Hope that these are correct ones that pertain to the Ships in question?

[Doc Vernon]

Thankyou Hugh

We have the ball rolling
My brother has just told me

Lady of Mann 1949.....SS Masunda...1949.......empress of canada 1949....port Auckland...1949.....MV BRESCIA 1949... MV SEKONDI 1949........THATS JUST A FEW !!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Lady_of_Mann

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Em..._Canada_(1928)

Port Auckland 1949

Brescia (2) 1945 ex- Hickory Isle, cargo, 1947 purchased from MOWT renamed Brescia, 1966 sold to Panama renamed Timber One. 3,834

Ship: BRESCIA (1947-1966 General cargo liner 339 feet long of Cunard Line, Liverpool)


Port of Registry:
Liverpool

Net Tonnage:
2,107

Reg Tonnage:
-

Gross Tonnage:
3,841

Deadweight Tonnage:
5,927


Bernt Frederiksz writes

Official Number 180517
Call Sign GCXZ
A two-deck general and refrigerated cargo vessel, she was built in 1945 by Consolidated Steel Corporation, Wilmington, USA as HICKORY ISLE and operated by the British Ministry of War Transport
Equipped with Direction Finder, Echo-Sounding-Device, Gyro Compass, Radar and Radio Telephone
In 1947 she was sold to Cunard Steamship Company, Liverpool, and renamed BRESCIA, and was employed on their UK to Mediterranean general and refrigerated cargo service.
Her classification at LLoyds was 100A1

Machinery aft
Length overall 338' 8"
Breadth extreme 50' 00"
Draught summer 23' 4 1/2"

Her machinery was an Oil Engine 2SA 6cy 545 x 735 mm built by Nordberg Manufacturing Company, Milwaukee.
Boilers were db 100lb ndb9/48

In 1966 she was sold by Cunard to a Panamanian Company and renamed TIMBER ONE
Sold again in 1970 she was converted into an oceanographic research vessel and renamed DEEPSEA MINER

She was broken up in Spain in 1974

[j.sabourn]

#25... Thanks for that John, However his proper name was Jacotine. What other you say matches up however, as J.I. Jacobs went to the wall previous to the dates you give. Sorry to hear he is dead that's why I couldn't find him. He told me his Father was a sergeant in the British army and his mother was Ceylonese, he tried to be more British than the British. He bought a cottage in Constable country right opposite a pub in a little village, and was single when I sailed with him. However he was getting married to the pubs Landladys daughter over 20 years younger than him. He was very naïve and although he was over 10 years older than me used to come and ask my advice about marriage, my wife thought he was a proper gentleman, he even gave me one of his old dinner suits and uniforms. A few year ago when I went to where he used to live, the locals had heard of him but never mentioned him dying, they all knew him as the Commodore, he often used to tell me that he was the commodore skipper in J.I.J. and I just used to say yeah, yeah, sounds like the same bloke. Apart from being a nice naïve bloke regarding the opposite sex, he was the bane of my life on the likes of Sunday inspections as wanted to log everyone whose cabin was not up to standard, the likes of not polishing their taps in the handbasins. I used to have to talk him out of it. In the post about the murder of the electrician, I got the full story from him, he was the target and the others got in his way, he was armed with a long handled brush, and he also stopped the armed guards from shooting the miscreant out of hand. You always get different versions of the same story on whoever is telling it. However Neil Jacotine RIP. My experience on the Rosewood where the master was stabbed he was a Capt. Hort and must be a long time dead as was in his 60"s then, also RIP. He always wanted me to go with him as mate and had his own foibles. Those days were different and usually on those types of ships the Mate and the Second Engineer ran the ship, the Chief and the Master were just figureheads. Thanks your post.. another mystery cleared up. JS PS He also had an MG sports car and a flat in London. I also said Norfolk I should have said Suffolk where he bought his cottage, very picturesque. It was in Flatford Mill. The pub where his wife worked was just a normal village pub, and his wife worked for her parents when not at university, his mother in law would have been the same age as Jacotine if not younger, think he would have been in his early 90"s today if still alive so can work out his age when you sailed with him. Cheers JS