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9th March 2016, 01:37 PM
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Re: WW11 Merchant Navy
Hi Everyone...Still no further on unfortunately. No MN records for him at National Archives for WW11 service....Only his application and Seamans Pouch from 1960. No trace of him at Southampton Archives either.
No definitive answer on his RAF Enlistment Form Employer details ie Employer...Ind. O. 056.21. Dis, 123.....(need a code breaker I think). I'm sure there must be a clue in that...or maybe wishful thinking!
I wondered how he managed to claim his medals if he didn't have a Seamans Discharge book/number...even if he was an apprentice how would he have proved which ships he was on? That's possibly why he had to claim them twice...1st time under the name Santanna, and 2nd time under Macaulay (name changed 1947).
No idea where to look next apart from crew records....could be a long search.
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9th March 2016, 03:36 PM
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#12, Hi Pat, is Santanna your fathers birth surname? If you can give me an idea of his date of birth and where born I will check the crew lists available on ancestry.com for both surnames. Siblings or parents names or marriage details would be most helpful too, for checking other avenues Marian
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9th March 2016, 11:50 PM
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Thanks for the offer Marian but I didn't think the crew lists on Ancestry cover ships during WW11.
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10th March 2016, 12:06 AM
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Re: WW11 Merchant Navy
Sorry long day, have not reread all but who is Dave Macaulay ?
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10th March 2016, 05:54 AM
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10th March 2016, 01:39 PM
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Re: WW11 Merchant Navy

Originally Posted by
Pat Fowles
Thanks for the offer Marian but I didn't think the crew lists on Ancestry cover ships during WW11.
Pat, Ancestry do hold crew lists of ships that docked in certain US ports during WW2 - New York, Boston etc etc so always worth checking.
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10th March 2016, 03:03 PM
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Hi Hugh....I've looked on Ancestry & FMP...no luck. He's nowhere to be found. Only place I can't look are the Apprentice records at National Archives. I asked Lee but he can't do it because it's only on Microfiche.
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10th March 2016, 03:19 PM
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Re: WW11 Merchant Navy

Originally Posted by
Pat Fowles
My Brother
Just wondered as I came across an old post, where he said he had the RAF records. PS. Also states De Santanna ?
Re: Merchant seaman Kenneth Edward De Santanna
Posted by: Dave Macaulay ()
Date: December 29, 2008 09:26PM
HELP!
I have been trying for some years now to trace my fathers service in the UK Merchant Navy. He stated he was sunk 3 times and gave the MN up in 1943 to join the RAF. I have his RAF records and they also coinfirm that he had on going treatment for burns, these are believed to have occured the last time he was sunk.
He may have gone by the name of either Crowther or Macaulay as well as De Santanna. I am trying to find out when and where he was sunk and which merchant vessels he served on?
Please, if anyone can help I would be most grateful.
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10th March 2016, 07:46 PM
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Hi Keith,
He did join the RAF in 1943.
For Pat,
You do realise that if he used the surname De Santanna then we are looking for his CRS 10 in the wrong file.
I note there is a K M De Santanna born in 1920 mother MacAulay. is he same family?
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Hi Keith,
He did join the RAF in 1943.
For Pat,
You do realise that if he used the surname De Santanna then we are looking for his CRS 10 in the wrong file.
I note there is a K M De Santanna born in 1920 mother MacAulay. is he same family? Head is beginning to hurt now 
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10th March 2016, 11:17 PM
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AWARDS HAVE HIM AS; Kenneth Edward Santanna. Centine - Ancestry.co.uk
Possibly Pat might clarify ?
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