I think I would rather jump overboard.

[Ivan Cloherty]

New site update and server Ivan. Anything that improves our site security is OK with me. Well done Brian. Thought the like, dislikes etc, was a cliquish thing anyway and a source of teddies being thrown out of prams. Say up front if you like or dislike something, rather than pressing a button. Makes the site much more open in conversation.

Each to his own, but personally I thought the 'like' button was a nice way to say 'thankyou' to someone for posting something interesting or of interest without going overboard, don't know where the cliquish thing comes into it, and whilst not being particularily up on computer security I just wonder how removing the 'like' button improves it. As for being open in conversation, haven't we always been just that, are we going to get a site now littered with short posts of 'I like that'. The old adage to my mind still holds true 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it'

[cappy]

Each to his own, but personally-- 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it'

####must say i agree ivan cant see things being the same with no like and thanks button ....it makes posts seemingly like a conversation and ....were the clickish bit comes in i dont understand.....that bit is far beyond me .....if someone has the same thoughts as youself how the hell can that be clickish.....i think now the feeling of kindred spirits will disapear and i for one will find that very difficult......if it has to be for security ok ...but not let anyone crow about it.....i think its a bit sad.....regards cappy who in his old age doesnt like change

[cappy]

were on the site has it been stated that thelike and thanks button is not being reinstated.....i have looked and cannot see a statement to that effect perhaps the monitors could clarify ....regards cappy

[gray_marian]

#22 &23, I agree with Ivan and Cappy on this debate of the like and thank you buttons. As someone who hits both on a regular basis to show my appreciation of an entertaining or well written post, also just as important a post that is informative and educational to me a landlubber. I have to say I'm rather disappointed that no poll/opinion was sought in this matter. How it has anything to do with security of the site is confusing so perhaps someone can explain this aspect to a technophobe. Of the two other sites that I visit on a regular basis both of which have been hacked also, only this site has had more changes than a vaudeville act to supposedly counteract the same again!.....

Please explain Chris why you think it's "cliquish" to use these buttons. As Ivan stated we will now have to use even more space to acknowledge a post when a like or thank you would have sufficed.

Apologies for invading your original thread Chris, no slight was intended on your amusing if somewhat alarming post.



Just read Doc's post about 'errors' so presume Like & Thank you buttons are to be resumed

[Chris Allman]

Please explain Chris why you think it's "cliquish" to use these buttons.

I am not required nor desire to explain anything to you Marian - as Ivan said in his post, ' Everyone to their own ' I have my opinion which I am entitled to and have no need to explain to anyone. I suggest you put your wooden spoon back in its drawer.

[Evan Lewis]

Please explain Chris why you think it's "cliquish" to use these buttons.

I am not required nor desire to explain anything to you Marian - as Ivan said in his post, ' Everyone to their own ' I have my opinion which I am entitled to and have no need to explain to anyone. I suggest you put your wooden spoon back in its drawer.

Rather unwarranted Reply.
So far as I'm concerned.
You've won The Wooden Spoon.

Getting back to the original subject.

At least the Person appearing at the Stern . Was alive. Which I believe is the object of the exercise.

[cappy]

well chris ...every one to there own ....well it looks like yer on your own.....regards cappy

[Des Taff Jenkins]

Hi Chris
Now you know why, women and children first makes sense.
Cheers Des

[Ivan Cloherty]

#25, rather ungallant old chap! No Chris you don't have to explain yourself, you are quite right there, but most of us are not afraid to explain our reasonings so that others do understand our reasoning which may be quite logical when explained, but making bald statements just confuses the issue (yes I know I'm easily confused) and is not helpful. Are you using the word cliquish to say that we who are polite (mostly) only thank each other as a support group and not support anyone else. Now that really may put off new people from joining and I have noticed a lot of new names contributing lately and that is nice to see and we don't want to alienate them by being surly, we want to encourage their contributions by giving them an appropriate 'like' or 'thankyou' is that too much to ask?

[John Arton]

Getting back to the theme of the original posting.
Most flag sates will accept a "controlled" launching where the free fall boat is lowered into the water using its recovery davit. The SOLAS regs. only require that lifeboats be "lowered to the water and exercised in water" once every three months. Whenever it was safe to and we were loaded we would do a free fall just for the experience, but this was on 5000 ton chemical tankers, not huge bulkers. Most, if not all, serious incidents with lifeboats have occurred with conventional, fully enclosed, davit launched lifeboats where the "on load" release gear has failed before the boat has been lowered into the water but is clear of the ships side and hanging in the falls.
rgds
JA