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22nd April 2012, 11:00 PM
#11
Concordia Salvage

Originally Posted by
Jim Brady
Just reading the salvage job has been given to a U.S. company Titan Salvage.The plan forsees removing the ship in one piece and towing it to an Italian port.The job is expected to take 12 months.
Regards.
Jim.B.
Hi Jim
Didn't see this thread until after I'd answered Tony's (Wilding) post #249 in Concordia Breaking news, my #250 gives a possible scenario,(I had an earlier post on that thread giving an estimate of 10 to 12 months as they were discussing it in the USA Maritime Reporter on 3rd April.I have supplied salvage equipment to TITAN in the past and worked with them, probably the best people for the job. They were originally a UK company taken over by Crowley Marine in the USA, still employ a lot of British salvage masters.
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22nd April 2012, 11:12 PM
#12
Gears:
No knowledge of the subject really, hence asking ?
Apparently, Italian tanks WW2, only had one gear :
REVERSE:
Do the Macaroni Navy design ships the same way ?
Respecting all souls lost, ask in a kind of jest and part truth.
If I knew the answer, would post just that.
There is / was a serious design flaw ?
And is it true that all Italian ships now have glass bottoms, so they can see what remains of a former navy ?
K.
Last edited by Keith at Tregenna; 22nd April 2012 at 11:15 PM.
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23rd April 2012, 12:03 AM
#13
concordia salvage
personally i hope the salvage compny make progress reports, will be quite interesting to see how they remove her, cant be easy as she is lying on a ledge, not a straightforward lift and remove, have no idea how they will patch her stbd side if holed, unless they get her upright first,
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23rd April 2012, 04:02 AM
#14
I know that this post is not what i am about to do but i have been trying to send a private message to you Jim and also to Capt Kong i get started then it does not let get any further this the first time it as happened to me as my daughter is away she would show me what i am doing wrong .This is before i get to the gin bottle help me im sinking
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23rd April 2012, 06:08 AM
#15

Originally Posted by
Charles Louis Barron
I know that this post is not what i am about to do but i have been trying to send a private message to you Jim and also to Capt Kong i get started then it does not let get any further this the first time it as happened to me as my daughter is away she would show me what i am doing wrong .This is before i get to the gin bottle help me im sinking
Lou mate, just add a bit of tonic and then you may only sink slowly.


Happy daze John in Oz.
Life is too short to blend in.
John Strange R737787
World Traveller

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23rd April 2012, 07:09 AM
#16
C C Salvage

Originally Posted by
Tony Wilding
personally i hope the salvage compny make progress reports, will be quite interesting to see how they remove her, cant be easy as she is lying on a ledge, not a straightforward lift and remove, have no idea how they will patch her stbd side if holed, unless they get her upright first,
If the areas affected (if any) were originally watertight compartments, they may use internal collision mats and then pump in polystyrene pellets into the compartment to keep the mat in place, alternatively they could use compressed air for the same purpose, depends on the nature of the breach. This would be done before she is brought upright.
But having worked on equipment with TITAN I know there are better brains than mine who will have innovative solutions in mind, things that will probably not have been used before, because afterall this is a "First" in scale, complexity and government requirements for such an ecological sensitive area. As said before would love a ringside seat, but couldn't afford the large probable ten month bill!
There are no secrets these days so no doubt we will see things on youtube, lets hope we don't get too much information (or mis-information) from TV Stations and Newspapers "Special Shipping Correspondents" who don't even know their own a*se from their elbow
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23rd April 2012, 08:27 AM
#17
Hi Lou,
I will send you an email.
Hope you and your family are keeping OK.
Cheers, Brian
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23rd April 2012, 06:40 PM
#18
CC Salvage
Just a little more on Jim's post #1
Titan will be working with the Italian firm Micoperi who are specialists in underwater construction and engineering. Titan will be the main contractor, a spokesman said that it will be a massive international assignment that will involve hundreds of personnel including naval architects, engineers, salvage masters and a variety of specialists including environmentalists.
Equipment will have to be garnered from around the world and will require its own specialist crews.
The plan is to upright the vessel and tow it to a port near Rome this operation is expected to take more than a year.
The main operating base will be located on the mainland at nearby Civitavecchia, where equipment and materials will be stored, thereby avoiding any impact on Giglio's port activities. The plan also includes measures to safeguard the island of Giglio's tourism and wider economy. Salvage workers'presence will not have any major impact on availability of hotel accommodation on the island during the summer season as nearly all salvage workers will be accommodated on vessels or on the mainland.
Once the main operation has been completed the sea bottom will be cleaned up and marine flora replanted.
Final approval has NOT yet been received from the Italian Authorities but is expected before early May. If I glean anymore I'll keep you posted, but I expect it will all go quiet now as they will just want to get on with the job and will be concentrating on locating the correct equipment and vetting the contracts which will all be subject to "Final approval being granted by the Italian (or other) Authorities" the number of times I've waited for that line to be okayed only to have it kicked from under me for some political reason, but it's all part of the game, but it sends the cost up as equipment is diverted elswhere and sometime replacement stuff has to be built specially (taking weeks or months, very rarely is it days)
So looks like our Newspaper Specialist Shipping Correspondent who said the vessel would be refloated in May was correct, he just got the wrong year, bless him!
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