B/T Identity certificate

[Moya]

I have just found an Identity certificate for my father who was a merchant seaman. Next to his photograph are various numbers and dated ranging from October 1918 to April 1921. Can any one tell me what these numbers and dates may relate to ? Thankyou. Moya

[Doc Vernon]

Hello Moya
What actual dates etc are shown on the ID Card!
Are they similar to this!?
Cheers

Can you get a Scan and post it,this wil help to identify exactly what you want!

If they are then they are self explanatry33003_GTJ85041.jpg

Or is it a bit like this one !See Link
Cheers

http://www.yourottawaregion.com/your...article/222121

[Hugh]

Hello Moya,

I would guess that you have a CR 10 card and the numbers would be official numbers of the ships he served on in that period. The dates to the right side would be his date of engagement on each vessel.
If you post the numbers they can be converted into ship names.

Regards
Hugh

[Doc Vernon]

Hello Hugh
As i know you are very good on these matters,i am jus asking would the CRS10 have a Photo on it?
This is why i looked at a Seamans ID Card!
As said just enquiring!
Cheers
Doc CRS 10 Continuation Page.jpg This CRS10 Shows Numbers etc and the names of the Ships!

[Hugh]

Hello Vernon,

No, you would never find a photo in a CRS 10 file.
CRS 10's are Fifth Register [1941 - 1972]. The date mentioned by Moya is 1918 - 1921 which were covered by CR 10 cards. I am assuming that Moya received this record from FMP or Southampton. I am also assuming that it is not an original RS2 identity book.
Regards
Hugh

[Moya]

Sorry, don't know how to scan. I got the details from Find My Past. It is a C.R 10. They appear to be two separate pages. The first one with his ID cert no: 356998 followed by the MNS Region (Wolverhampton) and regional number 217988A, then his name, (John Masterson) rating (seaman) date of birth and nationality, and then Dis A No: 904978. On the second page alongside his photograph are :- 110636. 7.10.18. 112633 12.18. 135553 6.19. 131283 2.20. 120934 10.20. 144423 11.20. 97819 11.20. 155467 4.21. I think he may have sailed out of Liverpool, as he lodged with a Liverpool family until his marriage in 1931 when he set up home there, he was sailing up until about 1960. Thankyou for your interest. Moya

[Doc Vernon]

131283		1131283	1910	THOMAS HOLT	1521		V1910	#556	J.Holt & Co (Liverpool) Ltd	GBR Liverpool
131283		1131283	1910	GARTHORPE	1521	1928	V1910	#556	J.Holt & Co (Liverpool) Ltd	GBR Liverpool

112633

1112633

1899

HYSON

6608

V1899

#296

China Mutual SN Co

135553

1135553

1914

AGAPENOR

7565

V1914

#12

Ocean SS Co Ltd

GBR Liverpool

110636

1110636

1900

ALCINOUS

6743

V1900

#19

Ocean S.S.Co Ltd

GBR Liverpool

144423		1144423	1920	MATAMA	2012		V1920	#1013	Khedivial Mail SS
144423		1144423	1920	SUTHERLAND	2012	1922	V1920	#1013	J.Currie & Co

20058893

MEMNON

1906

4870

cargo

Greenock

1930

Scrapped

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120934

http://www.photoship.co.uk/JAlbum Sh...s Holt-01.html

http://www.photoship.co.uk/JAlbum Sh.../Hyson-01.html

http://www.photoship.co.uk/JAlbum Sh...apenor-01.html

http://www.photoship.co.uk/JAlbum Sh...cinous-05.html

There are too many Pics of this name to be sure which is correct one! (Above)

http://7seasvessels.com/?s=Matama

http://www.photoship.co.uk/JAlbum Sh...erland-01.html

http://www.photoship.co.uk/JAlbum Sh...Memnon-11.html

Cant say that threse are all absolutely the ones but i feel for that period they are!
There are later Ships with the name Memnon as well!

Cheers

Dis A No: 904978. Is of course his actual Seamans Discharge Number which would be shown on his Seamans Book etc!

The Number 97819 does'nt look like a Ships Official Number to me,but i may be wrong!

When was he Born? Was it perhaps 1903 in Liverpool??

Would his Book etc look like these!
Cheers Just asking! Also for my learning! haha!

http://atlantic-cable.com/CableStories/Cope/index.htm






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[Hugh]

Ship number 97819 is 'AINSDALE'

Regards
Hugh

[Doc Vernon]

Wow!
Thanks Hugh where did you get that one from!?
I searched all over!
Great stuff!
Cheers

http://www.iredale.de/maritime/ainsdale_pic.htm

[Hugh]

Vernon,

CLIP - Crew List Index Project - Vessel data by official number
Regards
Hugh