Climate Change -Again.

[vic mcclymont]

Two interesting items from the news on climate change.

1) A couple of researchers are looking through old ships log books in order to harvest the information on sea temperatures recorded within the books. The hope by studying these recorded temperature they will be able to spot (if) any trends.
So far they have only studied a few log books and are looking for volunteers to aid them in their quest.

2) The Boss of Bosch Worcester Boilers, is complaining an rightly so that under new regulations gas boilers will not be installed any homes after 2025. He rightly states that the electric infrastructure has not been put in place to support the change to electric heating.

Vic

[Des Taff Jenkins]

Hi Vic.
I don't know if the world is warming or not, what I do know is that a lot of people are getting their knickers in a twist over it.
Cheers Des

[happy daze john in oz]

WE now have an overseas company wanting to build two of the new age cola fired power stations here.
The Labor party has said coal, now still supplying 80% of our power, will be needed for many years yet to come.
The 'Greens' have declared they have an army ready to oppose this idea.

We await with baited breath for the fight to begin, wet lettuce leave at twenty paces I suspect.

[j.sabourn]

The 28 years I have lived in Australia like as always I always look at the weather reports. It has suddenly struck me what really failed to penetrate in the past, that every night some part of Australia is expecting storms. As they are probably thousands of miles away I just forgot about them. However putting a bit of thought into it , a storm to me was a force 10 on the Beaufort scale. Here in Australia a heavy downpour of rain is called a storm. So maybe this is the climate change people are so keen to vaunt. A storm in a teacup perhaps ? JS

[happy daze john in oz]

The tea cup theory sounds about right there John.

We have some friends who live down the coast from us now.
The original family came out here in the very early 1880's and began farming.
They kept from their very first day records of rainfall, sunshine, frost and other weather patterns.
Couple of years ago on of their descendants put all the info from the books, about 70' or so onto spread sheets.

They show that from those days to now the weather patterns we are now experiencing are nothing new here in Oz and have no doubt been going on for centuries.
Problem is the Aborigines do not have a written language so we have no records prior to 1788 when the first feet arrived.
Even then there are many places where the records are only just about 100 years old.

Take politics out and what have we got, very little.

[happy daze john in oz]

Great talk here by the opposition leader, we have a general erection coming up next month, that by 2030 half the vehicles here in Oz will be of the Electric kind.
Great, try sending a B Double across the Nulabor on batteries??

We have a battery operated vac cleaner, very good one.
Problem with the battery, every charge sees the next running cycle just a little less than the last.
So went to the dealer to buy a second as a back up.
He has an array of Dyson cordless amongst all the stock.
He told me that his biggest sale is for batteries.
He then told me what I knew that every charge hold a little less than the last.

So with Electric cars no doubt the same problem, batteries of any kind have a limited shelf life.
Then there is the energy require to manufacture them and decommission them.

We have like many countries banned the one way plastic bag to replace them with a much stronger one, at a cost to consumer, bags that will take generations to break down.
Them the meat packaging at the supermarket, if you can open it that plastic will be around for millennium.

[j.sabourn]

All the talk about climate change to many who are ignorant of weather pattens and such, are also very naive on listening to those who preach about mankind changing. The climate, use it as a platform to expound
their own nobleness to such a fine sounding cause. They say ignorance is bliss, another true statement that has been there for years , but pushed under the carpet when not required. They for a start don’t know the difference between weather and climate. Climate is there because of its relativity to the sun. To change that you have to change that relativity. I am all for cutting back on smoke emissions, after all I did stop smoking. Fog mist falling snow and heavy rainfalls are due to weather. Not to man alterable earth orbits around the sun. JS

[happy daze john in oz]

I am amazed at the number of people who do not understand climate.
I I attempted the other day to explain the difference to a couple of guys I know.
They had no concept at all of what a climate vis or how it is determined.

I explained that Victoria is temperate, hot and cold, wet and dry.

But they thought that was the weather and it took some time before they understood.

It is people such as these who the gov and others consider to be gulliable enough to fall for all the rhetoric they put out.

[j.sabourn]

I wonder if.... in say 1000 years time archeologists , diggng in one of the many land fill sites of present day times, come across a Wilkinson sword edge disposable razor. Can just imagine the furore it could cause.... scientists argue about the use of an ancient find, the only thing they can agree on is that it dates back two ice ages to the Cretin times, there is one theory that it was used by our ancestors to shave their faces when this was popular in ancient times. Goodness knows what they will make of other disposable objects, the mind boggles. Think of any other objects to stretch the imagination ? JS

[Harry Nicholson]

https://www.climate4you.com/ is an interesting site - it needs a bit of a study though.