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5th September 2018, 06:07 AM
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Re: A Nazi's Thankyou.
Being banged up in a Russian prison was the story I was most familiar with.
But as is the case with so many stories like this the truth seldom gets a look in.


Happy daze John in Oz.
Life is too short to blend in.
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5th September 2018, 08:43 AM
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Re: A Nazi's Thankyou.

Originally Posted by
vic mcclymont
Some say Hess was held a prisoner at the Soviets request. The allies wanted to fee him after a period, but the Soviets refused point blank to entertain Hess's freedom.
One of the reasons given was that by keeping Hess a prisoner, the Soviets maintained a toe hold in the Way.
Vic
Vic the four powers UK USA France and Russia did a month about watching Hess at Spandau which was in West Berlin.UK USA and France wanted to release him but Russia objected,the story being that this gave Russia access to West Berlin every three weeks.
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Jim.B.
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5th September 2018, 08:57 AM
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Russia by all accounts had more to hate Germany than any of the allied powers had. If the accounts we read of Germany’s scorched earth policy and leaving death and destruction in their wake as far into Russia before they were stopped is true, I believe Stalingrad. The casualty’s that Russia bore must have exceeded any of the allied countries. When it came to pay back time they were going to extract every pint of blood at the atrocity’s levelled mostly at their civilian population. There would not be any leniency shown from people of that generation. Hess was a living symbol of that boil on the backside of mankind. Don’t also forget that Germany had a non aggression pact at the time with Russia. JWS
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5th September 2018, 09:13 AM
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Hi John, not condoning what Germany did to Russia in the war, but how much of the Russian casualties was down to Stalin.
He refused to retreat and regroup, he threatened his troops with the bullet if they left there posts.
It wasn't till he brought the experienced Siberian Troops, who were equipped for winter into the war that he started to make gains.
Vic
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5th September 2018, 09:43 AM
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British troops in at least the First World War got similar would receive the same punishment only they called it cowardice in the face of the enemy. Had two choices advance or get buried where you stand later. Today would be unheard of, would at least get councilling first before the glass house. JWS
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5th September 2018, 12:26 PM
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The Allies handling of the Sudetenland crisis spooked Joe Stalin and he feared Hitler would seek to annexe portions of the Soviet Union.He also thought that the Western Powers who had no love for Hitler or himself would be happy to leave the Communists to face the Nazi's alone, so in August 1939, these historic enemies signed a non-aggression pact. The deal shocked the Allies who had counted on the Soviet threat checking Hitler's territorial ambitions. But what the British and French didn't know was that the deal included secret provisions outlining how the two powers would divide up the smaller nations that lay between them. One of these nations was Poland, and when German troops crossed the border into Poland, Stalin decided to make his own plans to invade Poland from the East.
Regards from,
Fouro.
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5th September 2018, 05:54 PM
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"The Last Citadel" David. L. Robbins: An excellent book on the battle of Kirsk, as Ben said the largest tank battle ever, told from the point-of-view of both the Russians and the Germans. available in paperback.
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6th September 2018, 08:46 PM
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The Steinmeyer Story.
Steinmeyer legacy
Well Done That Man, R.I.P.
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Fouro.
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