Corbyn V May Channel 4 8.30 pm tonight.

[cappy]

##he would not do the drone on jehadi john .....if his head was on the block he would do it quick enough then lol cappy

[Ivan Cloherty]

#18 would you trust May them , the mistress of the U turn, she faffed about I have never seen a politician look as uncomfortable as her, at least Thatcher did have a Back Bone.

Don't think either of them sparkled, but still think May won by a short head, some of the questions asked by Paxman to both candidates were ridiculous such as 'how much would you be willing to pay to settle with Brexit' only a clown would ask that question, certainly someone with no business acumen, no business person would put their cards on the table before discussions had actually started

[vic mcclymont]

The whole thing appeared that used and chorographed. Paxman never deviated from his preset questions. He had chances with both to develop the line of questions, but failed in my opinion.
Regards
Vic

[Lewis McColl]

#20 Asked about the banks, what I heard him say was there are already state owned banks in the UK as in RBS & Lloyds which the British tax payer bailed out only for the Tories to start selling the shares off to their rich friends as they put a cap on what joe public could buy. Cracking business really, the tax payer bails them out, and then the banks decide to sell them back to you at an inflated price so you are getting the privilege of paying for them twice

how about this them for living in the democracy called the UK.

Charities are reportedly being “gagged” by the Government from speaking out about “damaging” social care plans.
A chief executive of a major charity told the*Guardian they felt “muzzled” by legislation passed in 2014, which prevents charities from lobbying the Government in the run-up to an election.
The charity leader warned Theresa May’s decision to means test the winter fuel allowance could “literally cost lives”, as some of the poorest pensioners in the country lose support.
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They also condemned the “dementia tax”, claiming it would stop people from seeking necessary support.
They said they were preparing to speak out but would not do so before the general election on 8 June for fear they would be gagged further.
“We are ready to speak out at one minute past midnight on 9 June,” they said.
Thinktank Charity Futures head Sir Stephen Bubb said the charity sector had been notably silent on the Tory manifesto.
“The social care proposals strike at the heart of what charities do but they should be up in arms about them but it hasn’t happened. It is two problems: there is the problem of the so-called ‘gagging act’, but also the general climate of hostility towards charities means there is a lot of self censorship,” he told the Guardian.
“Charities that once would have spoken out are keeping quiet and doing a disservice to their beneficiaries. They need to get a bit of a grip.”
Another senior figure in the charity said they were too scared to speak out.
“We are all scared of the lobbying act and thus most of us are not saying much during the election. There was the same problem in the EU referendum – if you criticise the government then you are being political,” they said.
Greenpeace was the first charity to be fined under the legislation after it failed to register as a “third-party campaigning organisation” in the run-up to 2015’s election.*
Civil society shadow minister Steve Reed said Labour would scrap the lobbying act as it “effectively gagged” charities.
“Here is this disastrous U-turn on social care and we are not hearing much from the charities that are working on the ground with older people and those with dementia because the Tories have shut them up. They’ve been banned from pointing out the negative consequences of government policy,” he said.

A Tory source said: “We are going to consult very widely on these changes in policy to avoid unintended consequences – we want to take into account views of people who use services, charities, stakeholder and so on and that will happen after the election period.” AND THAT WILL HAPPEN AFTER THE ELECTION WTF , WHY NOT DOIT BEFORE THE ELECTION ?????

[vic mcclymont]

Lloyd's bank ended up in partial state ownership because of Gordon Brown. If you are going to bombard us with facts please ensure your accuracy.
Lloyd's Bank was bailed out to the tune of £20.3b. the sale of shares has recovered £19.7b. when the other 3% is sold the Government will have recovered all the money.

[Keith at Tregenna]

A Tory source said: “We are going to consult very widely on these changes in policy to avoid unintended consequences – we want to take into account views of people who use services, charities, stakeholder and so on and that will happen after the election period.” AND THAT WILL HAPPEN AFTER THE ELECTION WTF , WHY NOT DOIT BEFORE THE ELECTION ?????

All I've ever heard from people, for years, is
"bloody bankers and their bonuses"
"bloody rich and their offshore tax havens "
"bloody politicians with their lying and second homes"
“bloody corporations paying less tax than me”
"bloody Establishment, they're all in it together”
“it'll never change, there's no point in voting”
And quite rightly so, I said all the same things.

But then someone comes along that's different. He upsets the bankers and the rich.

The Tory politicians hate him along with most of the labour politicians. The corporations throw more money at the politicians to keep him quiet. And the Establishment is visibly shaken. I've never seen the Establishment so genuinely scared of a single person.

So The media arm of the establishment gets involved. Theresa phones Rupert asking what he can do, and he tells her to keep her mouth shut, don't do the live debate, he'll sort this out. So the media goes into overdrive with…
“she's strong and stable”
“he's a clown”
“he's not a leader”
“look he can't even control his own party”
“he'll ruin the economy”
“how's he gonna pay for it all?!”
“AND he's a terrorist sympathiser, burn him, burn the terrorist sympathiser”

And what do we? We've waited forever for an honest politician to come along but instead of getting behind him we bow to the establishment like good little workers. They whistle and we do a little dance for them.
We run around like hypnotised robots repeating headlines we've read, all nodding and agreeing. Feeling really proud of ourselves because we think we've came up with our very own first political opinion. But we haven't, we haven't came up with anything. This is how you tell. No matter where someone lives in the country, they're repeating the same headlines, word for word. From Cornwall to Newcastle people are saying
“he's a clown”
“he’s a threat to the country”
“she's strong and stable”
“he'll take us back to the 70s”

And there's nothing else, there's no further opinion. There's no evidence apart from 1 radio 5 interview that isn't even concrete evidence, he actually condemns the violence of both sides in the interview. Theres no data or studies or official reports to back anything up. Try and think really hard why you think he's a clown, other than the fact he looks like a geography teacher. (no offence geography teachers) Because he hasn't done anything clownish from what I've seen.

And you're not on this planet if you think the establishment and the media aren't all in it together.
You think Richard Branson, who's quietly winning NHS contracts, wants Corbyn in?
You think Rupert Murdoch, who's currently trying to widen his media monopoly by buying sky outright, wants Jeremy in?
You think the barclay brothers, with their offshore residencies, want him in?
You think Philip Green, who stole all the pensions from BHS workers and claims his wife owns topshop because she lives in Monaco, wants Corbyn in?
You think the politicians, both Labour and Tory, with their second homes and alcohol paid for by us, want him in?
You think Starbucks, paying near zero tax, wants him in?
You think bankers, with their multi million pound bonuses, want him in?

And do you think they don't have contact with May? Or with the media? You honestly think that these millionaires and billionaires are the sort of people that go “ah well, easy come easy go, it was nice while it lasted”?? I wouldn't be if my personal fortune was at risk, I'd be straight on the phone to Theresa May or Rupert Murdoch demanding this gets sorted immediately.

Because here's a man, a politician that doesn't lie, he can't lie, he could have said whatever would get him votes anytime he wanted but he hasn't. He lives in a normal house like us and uses the bus just like us.
He's fought for justice and peace for nearly 40 years. He has no career ambitions. And his seat is untouchable. That's one of the greatest testimonies. No one comes close to removing him from his constituency, election after election.
His Manifesto is fully costed. It all adds up, yes there's some borrowing but that's just to renationalise the railway, you know we already subsidise them and they make profit yeah? One more time… WE subsidise the railway companies and they walk away with a profit, just try and grasp the level of piss taking going on there. Unlike the tory manifesto with a £9 billion hole, their figures don't even add up.
And it benefits all of us, young, old, working, disabled, everyone.

The only people it hurts are the establishment, the rich, the bankers, the top 5% highest earners.

[Louis the fly]

If Labour or any other party in the forthcoming election announced policies without saying what the policies are or who they will affect the Tories would be up in arms.
Banner headlines in the right wing press, T.V studios taken over by the usual Tory mouthpiece's.
Your trust in May is admirable also rather strange as we are the generation who will be taking the hit. This is why of course the changes have not been made public , it is the older generation who can be relied upon to vote.
Usually this site is full of posts from exactly the same people as now complaining of lying, cheating politicians who cannot be trusted. What has changed your mind ?

[vic mcclymont]

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The only people it hurts are the establishment, the rich, the bankers, the top 5% highest earners.

What a load of crap! Up to your usual standards.

[Keith at Tregenna]

Thanks for your thought proving reply.

K.

[John F Collier]

The whole thing appeared that used and chorographed. Paxman never deviated from his preset questions. He had chances with both to develop the line of questions, but failed in my opinion.
Regards
Vic

Agree Vic I think he had a golden opportunity to open it up and expose their real objectives, I am very sceptical of politicians
of all party's and and don't believe much of what any of them say, I will vote Tory this time because because Theresa May is
the best -- only option we have for the Brexit negotiations, whether or not she can deliver what she proposes, we can only wait
and see, having said that, I think Corbyn would be a walking disaster in all areas, for me the best man for Brexit would have
been Nigel Farage, I am not loyal to any political party but I'm definitely to the right of center. cheers John F