When is a job not a job ?

[cappy]

you give a list of persons who only take out the system louis what bout the working folk paying taxes inc vat income tax council tax petrol taxes etc to put that list of people in a job ...to quote yourself there is none so blind as them that cant take the bucket of there head.......cappy

[Louis the fly]

I have read a lot of crap from you over the years but this beats all. To say that all the dedicated professional people listed who are there to help us are only taking out the system shows how ignorant and ill informed you are. Don't you think they pay tax also ?

Everything I have written can be born out by facts. Thanks to technology we all have computers , knowledge at our fingertips , everything can be checked for truth. You have the choice whether or not to believe in truth.

[John F Collier]

#25, That is exactly right Keith I was the same as yourself but earlier, when I left school in 1954 my leaving report said
"should do well with his hands" I could have had no end of jobs such as a Van boy etc but thought I could do better for myself
and got a job with a small engineering firm, where I was taught lathe turning and capstan lathe work. In my interview for the job I was offered £1.30s a week as an apprentice, I turned it down and then I was immediately offered £2.50s as a shop boy
which I accepted. When I started work I told the other men there what had happened, they roared with laughter and said "the crafty old bugger always tries it on" you would have been doing exactly the same work I've never forgotten that as it was my first lesson in the outside world. I can see both sides of the on going debate as neither side can hope to get it completely right, I'm right wing but not loyal to any party. This morning I've read that Tony Blair is about to re enter politics,
"the man who walks on water will come back to save the world" : cheers JC

[cappy]

I have read a lot of crap from you over the years but this beats all. To say that all the dedicated professional people listed who are there to help us are only taking out the system shows how ignorant and ill informed you are. Don't you think they pay tax also ?

Everything I have written can be born out by facts. Thanks to technology we all have computers , knowledge at our fingertips , everything can be checked for truth. You have the choice whether or not to believe in truth.

ah once again the voice of the bottomless pit of socialism ......keep taking it out then complaining there is nothing left .......beat your drum louis.. corbyn and mcdonald love you ....last from me go and create a job instead of moaning about them......cappy

[Rodney Mills]

#25, That is exactly right Keith I was the same as yourself but earlier, when I left school in 1954 my leaving report said
"should do well with his hands"

I still have my school leaving report from Southchurch Hall High School for Boys, Southend-On-Sea, Essex. On it states "...Rodney will do well in any overseas part of the British Commonwealth...." Old Mr. Haxwell-Thomas, headmaster, apart from the United States not being in the Commonwealth, was quite prophetic.

[John F Collier]

#45,The only thing I have from school is my swimming certificates, 50- 100 and 150 yards, and whilst browsing my old junior
school's web page I found my 1949 class photo, talk about a "blast from the past" it nearly brought a tear to my eye to see my old teachers and class mates, and then of course there I was up on the back row standing on a bench. Walking out of the school gates for the very last time was one of my happiest day's, and as much as I enjoy thinking back to my childhood I have never wished I was back at school. cheers JC

[happy daze john in oz]

John correct me if I am wrong. What I have seen out here even in the maritime trade, big amounts in super, which they immediately proceed to spend like a man with 6 arms. They then go on to the government pension and handouts. So me tell me if I am wrong but isn't the super supposed to be part of their pension. When I retired I received a small pension from the MN no large cash amounts to go on round the world trips. Part of the fault lies with this payment if these facts are right, superannuation should be for living purpose not to go on jaunties as most do and then claim a full pension from the government. Unfortuanetly it is going to hurt people but the Super laws have to be changed to suit modern living conditions. The politicians can start with themselves they made the rules. JS

John we live on a mixture of state pension, small UK pension and super. But the state one is means tested but between them we manage well. The problem, now fixed, was that a few years ago you could draw down all your super and claim the full pension.

[Colin Wood]

When I was up for second mates in 1957 and decided to enjoy extended leave I got a job in the city from an employment agency working as a clerk in a stockbrokers office. I was paid L10 per week + LV's (3shilling luncheon voucher) The permanent clerks were paid L7.5 but got 2 weeks leave on pay where I was only paid for days worked. had a great 3 months, Had a great 3 months. Lunch at dirty dicks with a pint of cider on a hot day cost me 3d but with a pint of Guiness it cost me 6d. My mother worked for the same agency for about 10 years and there was always a shortage of office workers in the city.
The office I worked in had 3 other temps who had a very strict working hours, start 9, 1030 10 minutes knock off for tea, 12 to 1300 lunch and knock off at 1700. They were not happy with me because having been to sea was used to working whenever work was required and my office work load did not fir there hours, so I worked from 9 and when desk was cleared went for smoko, There was a lot of work writing cheques from 12 till 130 so that's when I worked and then knocked off for lunch because there was nothing to do till 4. Most of the staff used there LV's for sandwiches but I eventually got a lot of them joining me at Dirty Dicks on a Friday. We worked overtime every other Tuesday evening and got a feed. When I started they were thin sangers with a coke. I checked things out and showed to staff member who purchased the feed that the pub next door had great ham sangers with the meat straight off of the bone and a bottle of beer for the same price. Everyone was very happy. Happy days, but weather started to get cold so back to sea.

[j.sabourn]

#48. Colin I was ashore the same time for second mate. Got 30 shillings dole and if didn't get 2nd. mates in that 12 weeks time used to stop dole. I went to Nellists in Newcastle, and every Friday ( dole day ) Billy Nellist used to be waiting for his 1 pound a week tuition fee. There were 3 of us, 1 from Huntings tankers and the other from Shell, who used to hit the pubs on that day but were always careful to keep his 1 pound intact. When they were going to stop our dole went and put our papers in, he told us to go and take them out as due to our absences we weren't ready, told him we were broke. That week there were only 3 passes in signals writtens and orals, guess who the three were, his last words as we went our ways was There is no justice in this world. In 1957 all though we had little money there seemed no need of it. Times have certainly changed since those days as it seems to be everyones aim in life to accumulate wealth, as long as one can pay their way in life that is the main thing. That and never hit a woman and never leave a bad smell behind you, and you've lived a good life was always my doctrine. As we are always saying we have had the best years to have been around. Cheers JS

[j.sabourn]

#47... Thanks John, thought you still could. People I know did, but am going back 10 to 15 years ago. Cheers JS