Donald Trump.

[happy daze john in oz]

Well Rodders thank you for thta bit of info. However knowing our state premier I am convinced it was the vertical fiscal imbalance he spoke of. The fact is this man wasted one billion dollars on a project started but he did not like so stopped it just after coming into office. A road to connect both sides of the city, he claims we do not need it, oh yea? So he wastes the money in compensation, but to add to that there are now very few international companies that will come to Victoria while Labor are in power.

Now you may have heard of the new London underground line. A 117 klm extension with a 42 klm tunnel in it. The whole project takes just over 5 years with 3.5 for digging the tunnel. Our fiscaly unbalanced premier has commissioned an extension to our city underground. A 9 klm tunnel that will take until 2026 to complete. Of course if they could find a second man with a shovel it might be done quicker.

[Rodney Mills]

Interesting polls came out today. 76% of voting age women would not vote for Trump. Women make up 52% of voters.

Polls taken of "who would you vote for Trump or Clinton" show a landslide win for Clinton. With even a larger vote for Clinton's rival Bernie Sanders. Sanders is the darling of the young vote, who notoriously get excited over a candidate, but stay home on voting day. So that result is a bit skewered.

Cruz is running neck and neck with Clinton. Cruz is an extremely right wing tea party Republican and not one senator or congressman will have anything to do with him. God knows how he would expect to govern if he was to win.

What a sorry lot. I have never missed voting in any election, I even vote in our local sheriff's election, but I think I'm going to sit this one out. Many times I have held my nose and voted, but not this time. I'm hoping a miracle happens at the conventions and some dark horse squeaks in that is better than this lot.

[Peter F Chard]

#21 The mention of the London underground and the Irish navvies reminds me of a new deep freeze store being built at a Meat Works in Auckland where I worked. F******R Construction were to build a new lamb carcass blast freezer -- this was a huge building, cube shaped it measured 40m x 40m x 40m high and would freeze 3000 lamb carcasses down to minus 40'C in twelve hours. Work started by removing the top soil and horror of horrors -- solid rock. I am staggered that the main contractor did not do any site surveys prior to submitting his tender because there was now going to be a lot of extra cost with this project. Work stated by pick and shovel in the early stages and was painfully slow, eventually the contractor resorted to using compressed air tools but even this only increased productivity slightly. The Works chief engineer was furious at the slow progress and the mounting costs so he hunted round and located a gang of itinerant Irish navvies who travelled the world working on large projects such as this one. These guys were fantastic, they were disappearing down this hole at about a metre a day, blast after blast on the holes to become the main support columns, 42 holes, 1.5m in diameter and 20m deep. They lived on site and revived their weary bones with staggering amounts of Guinness each night and never any trouble. Regards Peter in NZ.

[John Blaney]

#15, Same as "deficit", all smoke and mirrors, can be turned on and off like a tap to suit "Them",
the information they feed us is useless, according to the book "Shooting the Hippo", by Canadian author Linda Mcquiag,
I have no faith in any of them.

[Des Taff Jenkins]

Hi Peter.
I worked for Fletcher construction for about five years, did a lot of work in Westfeild freezing works, when we had just about finished a welding flame burned it down, had to start all over. Titirangi Reservoir, and an extension to the old crockery factory in New Lynn, and an extension to a wharf in Auckland to take container ships, also worked for Downer in the freezing works across the road from Westfeild.
Cheers Des

[Braid Anderson]

I was Project Manager for Downer in PNG on the Highlands Highway Daulo Pass to Chuave, and on the Angurra River Bridge in Southern Highlands.

[Peter F Chard]

#25 Hi Des, I was Senior Shift Engineer at Southdown ( Auckland Farmers Freezing Cooperative ) from 1966 until it closed down in 1981. That works was at the corner of Church street and The Great South Road. Across the road and slightly nearer to Otahuhu was Westfield ( part of the Vestey Group ) and next door to that was Hellaby ( owned by the Hellaby family ) Just think, in the season those three works could handle about 45 thousand lambs a day between them, 45000 lovable cuddly little lambs having their throats cut just so we humans could enjoy a lamb chop or two !! Regards Peter in NZ.

[Peter F Chard]

#26 Braid, Downer are still very big here in NZ, They are heavily involved with the re-building of Christchurch following the earthquake ( the place is still being rocked, more than 7500 aftershakes to date ) Regards Peter in NZ.

[j.sabourn]

Donald Trump in todays paper is said to have said that the people of Great Britain will come out of the European Union. In last weeks International Express there was a full page on the History of the EU which would be too long to repeat , so have done what most journalists do and take out just the parts I like. Title of the Article, EU WAS NEVER MEANT TO BE A DEMOCRACY. Any country other than a shambolic anarchy must have a government. We know about Autocracy, rule by a single tyrant. There Theocracy, rule by a priestly castle, such as Iran. Add stratocracy rule by the army, as Egypt. and Plutocracy rule by the very rich. But two are with us and very visible. one is Bureaucracy, government by the officials. Democracy is by far the hardest to establish. It is the most fragile and easiest to fake with rigged elections. I have travelled very widely, seen the good, the bad and very ugly and have come firmly to believe that with all its flaws the British Parliamentary form of democracy is the best in the world. Just after the war a group of men politicians, thinkers, intellectuals, and theorists formed around Frenchman Jean Monnet. They came up with two solutions that countries be unified be unified into one under a single government. They accepted this may take 2 maybe 3 generations. It was to their second conclusion to which I take exception. The whole group were mesmerized by the fact that Hitler in 1933 the Germans seized by rabid nationalism, voted Adolph Hitler into power. Their conclusion the people any people were too obtuse , too gullible, too dim to be ever entrusted with the ability to elect their government.Those founders realized that there would have to be facades erected to persuade the gullible.That Democracy had not been abolished in the new Utopia. The broad masses would also have to be convinced that the purpose of the Monnet utopia was economic and thus about prosperity. This untruth has prevailed to this day. Back in the 1960"s MacMillan after Heath came to the view that with the Empire departing into independence and the U.S. becoming more protectional our economic days were numbered. Back then the Union was 6 countries. So under Heath we joined the Common Market. As a trading nation. It would never go further we were told. The six became nine but all in Western Europe. Heath said there would never be transference of any Sovereignity. In 1992 came the Maastrich Treaty it created the European Union, we were told it was just tidying up loose ends. Slowly Decree by Decree Law by Law our ancient right to govern ourselves the way we want to be governed and by whom was transferred to Brussels. Now 60 per cent of laws are framed in Brussels and not London, The entire establishment much espoused of power without accountability has become hugely enamoured of the new governmental system. Less and Less need to consult voters. It is no coincidence that the five professions that worship power -politicians, bureaucrats, diplomats, quangocrats, and lawyers plus the two who lust for money Bankers Financiers and Tycoons today constitute almost the whole of the stay in campaign.
The referendum decision of June 23 will be the last ever, the decision permanent. So this is your choice. This is about the country we will spend the rest of our lives, the land we will pass to our children and grandchildren. What kind of country, what kind of governmental system, peoples democracy or officialdoms empire . Our right to hold power to account or just two duties pay and obey. Politicians to my mind have been the most devious and underhand tricksters since the war years, the last two lines are my own. Cheers JS

[cappy]

trump is talking out his syrup.....the only way we will come out that club ...is when it folds ......cappy