tax dodging

[cappy]

Terry just heard a cracker on Radio Merseyside phone in.A guy rang up his grandson was taken on as a "Apprentice Security Guard" his training consisted of being shown the hut he was to sit in during his shift and told to ring the police if he seen anything suspicious.That was his full one hour training he was then left on his own in his hut.
Regards.
Jim.B.

##wot no billy can

[Jim Brady]

No billy can no running water and have a pizz in the bucket but oh a lovely uniform.Oh to complete the apprenticeship and become a full blown chocolate soldier,maybe even rising to the dizzy height of sergeant.LOL.
Regards.
jim.B.

[cappy]

if he had a mate who was an apprentice joiner .....he could get a hut made and start his own security business ..and employ somebody else to do thejob ......but then he would be a capitalist barsteward and nobody would like him ........MN humour

[Jim Brady]

I suppose he could go to the dogs home if he has any go in him and pick up a stray Alsation having the dog is worth a extra £1.00 an hour.There is always a future if he puts his mind to it he could end up taking over G4.
Regards.
Jim.B.

[vic mcclymont]

Labour in their manifesto are promising that for every university place they will create one apprenticeship place.

[Jim Brady]

They are talking about real apprenticeships not like such jobs a security guards with I hour training.
Regards.
jim.B.

[cappy]

They are talking about real apprenticeships not like such jobs a security guards with I hour training.
Regards.
jim.B.

###well thats that problem solved then ......yippeee

[Fouro]

As I see it.
There are joiners AND joiners, some class themselves as joiners if they can hammer a nail into a plank of wood, e.g. shuttering joiners.Then at the top of the tree there are highly skilled wood pattern joiners who work to very fine limits. There are moulders in the foundries but not every moulder is a highly skilled pattern moulder. There are engineers but not every engineer is a millwright. There are painters AND painters but not every painter can do woodgraining with the brush.
Apart from Ivan swinging on the end of a chipping hammer and not coming into contact with any navigation instruments during the first two years of his seven years navigation training I can't see any trace of anyone else on the site having served an apprenticeship.
Have any of you ever experienced the pleasure of being an apprentice learning the trade of your choice?.

FOURO.

[vic mcclymont]

Yes, I have. I started out as an apprentice electrician and completed my apprenticeship as an electrical design draughtsman. I wa designing ships electrical installations, switchboards, control panels, and also land installations.

[Ivan Cloherty]

As I see it.
Apart from Ivan swinging on the end of a chipping hammer and not coming into contact with any navigation instruments during the first two years of his seven years navigation training I can't see any trace of anyone else on the site having served an apprenticeship.

FOURO.

The apprenticeship was three and half years, and had little or no contact with navigation equipment all that time, most of the time was, chipping, painting, washing down, holystoning, sanding taffrails, cargo watching, bilge cleaning, though we did wear our uniforms at meal times because we were trainee officers!! did get a spells as QM and promoted to a Bunting Tosser during the Suez invasion, as for being taught navigation, etc absolute zilch, was self taught from books and looking out the porthole. As soon as I finished my time I was asked to go back as 3/m when I got my ticket, you could have used the raspberry as a foghorn. Took a job as 2/m on a Yellow Peril, thrown in at the deep end and learnt more actual navigation in the first three weeks than I did in three and a half years in a 'Liner Company' Spent many months on the coast before returning deep sea and the experience taught me that these coasting men had a more demanding navigation job than anyone deep sea and there were no 14/30 day passages to virtually relax and hope you came across another ship to break the monotony.

Did I hate my apprenticeship days? not really, they taught me to not to expect everything on a platter, they taught me self reliance, though I at many times felt like jacking it in, they taught me to read the small print, they taught me to honour my signature and complete the indentures, my father had told me that the only thing you ever really own, is your signature, always honour it. Again we were from an era where-in we were little hard buggers having survived the rigours of the war years and no doubt that helped in our attitude to life and didn't expect everything on a plate. I was disappointed that I had not learnt my intended craft at a rate I wanted to learn it but in the end it was only a passing phase in a long life and made me determined to succeed as well as I was able in the future, it also taught me to ensure that any cadet who sailed with me as 3/m upwards was never ignored and if I could help in their learning process I wouldn't stick a bloody paintbrush in their hand and say get on with it you're here to work and I hope I succeeded in that, if nothing else