tax dodging

[gray_marian]

#32, Jim, With all due respect if your grandson or whoever it is in your family wants to be a Cabinet Maker then tell him to approach a small Independent Furniture Company. It's not rocket science. Present himself, tell them keen to learn, work hard [unfortunately that will include sweeping floors!!] even better, asks local job centre is there a govt fund to assist help small company pay towards his wages, does that, then any small manufacturer might actually be impressed with a youngster using his own initiative. We have had this conversation before!!.....

[Jim Brady]

Thanks for the info Marian he is a full blown joiner now.
Regards.
Jim.B.

[gray_marian]

I'm pleased, good for him

[cappy]

You would have to be pretty stupid not to know that it is easier to secure a job when you are still employed,did someone have to tell you that, I just thought it was common sense without having to be told.
Regards.
Jim.B.

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Flying off at a tangent again cappy read the facts of the story.
Regards.
Jim.B.

###jim we have come the full circle......ie your doncaster missive ...it was not one of the great chances of life ....but at least it was work experience and ITS EASIER TO GET A JOB IF YOU ARE EMPLOYED ...i would respectively suggest you have just disapeared up your own orifice ...to keep it polite regards cappy lol

[Jim Brady]

I don't know how I have been sucked into this nonsense it is just becoming more ridiculous every post it is not a debate of any sense just becoming a slanging match.Take it as a win if you wish cappy but I can assure you that is the last on the matter from me.
Regards.
Jim.B.

[cappy]

jim you have lost this debate hands down......but non of us are correct all the time but sadly you are wrong again .......regards cappy lol and with respect

[Ivan Cloherty]

[QUOTE=Jim Brady;195117]

Quite right Ivan a man that makes fine furniture,so if you were sent for an interview as an apprentice cabinet maker you would be expecting tobe taken under the wing of a cabinet maker and be taught that beautiful trade.But instead you would be shown into a factory given a cordless drill and set to work assembling flat packs of kitchen units.That was the point I wanted to put across Ivan,it's the use of the word apprentice,using kids to assemble flat packs when all it is is glorified factory work and should be given to an adult on the basic wage.
Regards.
Jim.B.

So nothing has changed then Jim, I was apprenticed to become a navigator/officer, had to purchase £400 worth of uniforms to fit in with officer status (took me six years to pay back the loan, not easy on £6 per month), sounded wonderful, however I spent the next three and half years swinging from the end of chipping hammers and paintbrushes, never held a sextant or allowed to the use the radar, nearest I got to navigating equipment was polishing the brass binnacle. That was the same for hundreds if not thousands of my fellow cadets/apprentices, so don't know what you are bellyaching about, at least your relative got to hold the tools of his trade, try taking a sight with a bloody paintbrush.

[Rodney Mills]

John in W.A..

John, I have followed your ...I cannot use the noun 'adventure' to describe the harrowing, gut wrenching tragedy you participated in, I salute you. I doubt I would have the courage to do what you did. I have followed your posts covering your actions, and though I have not seen the documentary film you question I believe what you say is the truth.

Now you and I embrace opposing philosophies, and I'm smiling as I'm sure you expect a 'but' or 'the other shoe to drop'. Well there is no 'but'. Documentaries are supposed to depict the truth. The obvious villains as villains and heroes as heroes, and to educate its viewers to what happened. No messages either boldly stated, or subliminal; just the facts.

A movie is something else. Its only purpose is to entertain. It is not a medium of education; however, if it slips in a couple of facts without spoiling its purpose for existence, so much the better.

I never paid to have my work produced. As I have stated I am a capitalist and expect to be paid for my endeavors, I know a few writers that have chosen 'vanity publishers' and are stuck with a thousand copies boxed up in the garage and never sold enough to cover their costs. I had an agent who represented me, and handled the business side with the publishing houses and movie producers. Without an agent an author has no chance. An unsolicited manuscript, called "coming over the transom" by publishers is immediately returned if mailing costs are included or dumped...plain old dumped if unsolicited movie scripts are received. So the legal ramifications are wrangled out between agent, attorney, and the principle.

Writers are held in contempt by the rest of the movie industry. Schmuck, is a German and Yiddish word for jewelry, and for a hanging object, also in Yiddish it can mean a dangling object, part of a male body...that word also starts with the letter P.. Olivetti was the trade name of a manual typewriter. Samuel Goldwin of MGM fame once described a writer as "a schmuck with an Olivetti."

Your last sentence in relationship to, I think, including me in with the "best sellers" was music to my ears, alas, My agent had one offer for publication from Popular Press, printing to coincide with 'the first day of principle filming'. so that was that, but at least "I was a contender".

Still, I made some money, met some interesting people and some 'schmucks', and enjoyed the whole experience.



Cheers, Rodney

[happy daze john in oz]

I can think of two billionaires here in Oz who began as apprentices, they worked hard, saw an opening and took It, may students will go to the Golden Arches for some time as it looks good on a resume, they have learned the meaning of disipline.
An apprentice can be any sort of worker who is learning a new skill, that may include washing the floor. When in management I never asked any staff member to do any job I was not able to do, I began at the bottom and worked my way up, no Cappy not like that. At the age o I began working on a pig farm weekends ad holidays, at 11 getting up a 5.30 to deliver papers never did me any harm.

One of the problems lies with the gov, offering discounts if a company takes on new works, call the apprentices and you can pay a lower rate. But how man industries now need apprentices in the way we knew as young lads? So many industries have changed to the point that the only skill needed is how to replace a pert, no repair!

[moktay]

There is saying here in the US on how to get ahead, "It's not what you know it's who you blow"