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23rd April 2014, 06:29 AM
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Re: cheap diesel fuel anyone

Originally Posted by
Jim Brady
Yes I read that story 30.000 worth £40.000.The pipeline runs for 130 miles from Esso's Fawley to the Midlands.Two men were arrested in Wellow ,Hants they rented a factory unit then tapped into the pipeline.It's like something you hear of happening in Nigeria.
Regards.
Jim.B.
So maybe that is why it happened in UK, some just do not know the difference.


Happy daze John in Oz.
Life is too short to blend in.
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23rd April 2014, 07:15 AM
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Re: cheap diesel fuel anyone
Keith
Looked on tinternet and Exxon/Mobil fawley has its own web site where you can take a virtual tour of the refinery. It appears that the chemical plant has had a lot of investment in it since I was last there in 07.
Louis your #16. Any diesel car will run on used vegetable oil, even modern ones. As a private citizen you are allowed to store up to 500 litres of the stuff on your property. Before use it needs to be filtered well and to ensure clean burning you need to add methanol to it in, I think, the ration of 7 parts oil, 1 part Methanol.
Clarkson actually took a bog standard Volvo without any modifications from Blackpool to Hull on filtered waste veg. oil. The AA oversaw the draining of the tank prior to filling it with waste oil and also checked the engine over on completion. He did the run on one tank and got similar fuel consumption as if he had been using diesel but the smell was pretty awful. At the end of the run the engine was again checked and it was still o.k.
Believe Swindon runs some of its buses on recycled waste veg. oil and the rise of bio diesel uses rape seed oil amongst others.
rgds
JA
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23rd April 2014, 07:27 AM
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Re: cheap diesel fuel anyone
I am going to disagree with you John , the latest Diesel engines , with a particulate filter should not run on the Bio diesels , or vegetable oil . The engine will go suck squeeze bang blow like all diesels , but the down line gear on the exhaust will be in engineering terms buggered , and it is expensive to replace .
Rob Page R855150 - British & Commonwealth Shipping ( 1965 - 1973 ) Gulf Oil -( 1973 - 1975 ) Sealink ( 1975 - 1986 ) 

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23rd April 2014, 07:42 AM
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Re: cheap diesel fuel anyone
Rob
I bow to your superior engineering knowledge. I had an 08 registered X Trail that ran O.K. on bio ,This was brought new from a car supermarket at a great price having been imported via Ireland and it had quite an agricultural engine, if I could find a garage selling it,but when I swopped it for a 10 registered one the particle filter gave so much hassle that I got rid of it within a month and I was not using bio diesel. The garage that sold it to me initially said that the reason the particle filter was giving trouble was that we were not blasting it up and down the motorway on a regular basis but they eventually admitted there was a fault in it so they took the car back.
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23rd April 2014, 11:07 AM
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Re: cheap diesel fuel anyone
Hi shipmates, I was on deck so no nothing about the big parts that move in the engine room, But Max a mate, who gone to the big scrap yard in the sky, in his spare time use to put Bio diesel kits in cars,/ L.P.G kits in petrol cars His main job was fixing classic cars, I help him on a few... His car was run on Bio diesel a old merc got great mileage, with very little smoke, only on the cold start he put some stuff in it cant remember what it called but it worked a treat ? So no chip shop smell he was never stopped by the law when it was illegal...
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24th April 2014, 06:47 AM
#26
Re: cheap diesel fuel anyone

Originally Posted by
robpage
I am going to disagree with you John , the latest Diesel engines , with a particulate filter should not run on the Bio diesels , or vegetable oil . The engine will go suck squeeze bang blow like all diesels , but the down line gear on the exhaust will be in engineering terms buggered , and it is expensive to replace .
Know a guy who a couple of weeks ago put half a tank of petrol in his diesel, wondered why a few miles up the road the car began to shake and rattle. Cost him an arm and two legs to get fixed, stuffed the wrrranty as the car is only six months old.


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24th April 2014, 06:49 AM
#27
Re: cheap diesel fuel anyone
My understanding from a mechanic at the dealership I use , Audi , is it can cost you a new engine , which is around £10,000 from the dealer fitted .
Rob Page R855150 - British & Commonwealth Shipping ( 1965 - 1973 ) Gulf Oil -( 1973 - 1975 ) Sealink ( 1975 - 1986 ) 

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24th April 2014, 08:44 AM
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Re: cheap diesel fuel anyone
I once filled my petrol Volvo with Diesel full tank, and just got away from the garage when it stopped.
Fortunately a mate who is a mechanic was just driving past in his van so I stopped him. He towed me home and then connected a pipe to the fuel line and using the starter key he slowly emptied the diesel into a can that he then poured into his own diesel tank.
It took over an hour to do, then he went back to the Garage and got a can of petrol for me so I could start and go back and fill up with petrol again.
All it cost me was a tank of diesel. so we were both happy.
Cheers
Brian
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24th April 2014, 08:54 AM
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Re: cheap diesel fuel anyone
A small ammount of petrol accidently put into a diesel tank should not cause too much damage, in WW2 and fighting in extreme temperatures, they used to deliberately put small amounts in to lorries etc to prevent the diesel freezing i believe, KT
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