Unemployed.

[Des Taff Jenkins]

HI All.
I suspect that everyone has the answer but over population is the biggest factor today, with old time jobs disappearing and the IT jobs taking over no one wants to do the hard yacker as we did in our days.
Down here and in the Rivererina where all the fruit is picked it's all done by backpackers or imported labour no one will leave the city to work there and yet despite the lower wages one can still pick up good money, I know that if I was stuck way back I'd have done it, had some **** jobs in my time.
Cheers Des

[Les Woodard]

As Marion pointed out what with child minding fees and other costs today to go to work for the second partner surely they will wake up one day that they have all been conned. The governments love it as it keeps the money going round even though the ones working are no better of with two wage packets and overtime in a lot of cases than we where on single income. In fact they are worse of with the debts mounting every day. No bloody good thinking of turning back the clock as they have their nuts in a vice and the economy is screwing it tighter every day. I thank my lucky stars that I retired when I did as we had the cream of the cream did we not.

[Ivan Cloherty]

. I thank my lucky stars that I retired when I did as we had the cream of the cream did we not.

I don't think we had the cream of the cream Les, we just had a different work ethic, we would rather have any job, no matter the pay or conditions, rather than go on the 'Dole' and be tarred a bludger, no shame being on benefits these days, it's a badge of honour and the more you can bludge, the more you can brag about. Also we seafarers in 40/50/60's were not on high wages but we liked our job, in most instances only marriage forced us out in those days, also a lot of men besides considering it a calling also thought they were helping their families survive by being at sea, because there was one less mouth to feed at home. A different world, different ethics, who knows which is best, the young know no different, so cannot compare, sometimes, although not many, age has it's advantages for comparison purposes

[Keith Tindell]

I do think that i was born in a lucky era, jobs wee plentiful, although not well paid. I left school on the Friday, aged 15 years,only qualification was willing to work, started work on the Monday, and have never been unemployed, and have done a raft of jobs, just to get money. I do feel sorry for the young of today, sent to university (just to keep them occupied, in a lot of cases), promised all sorts of things when they get a degree, they get said degree, some in useless subjects, leave university with a large debt, and find still no work out there, and no means of paying off the debt, pretty bleak outlook, In my local supermarket, there are two guys with degrees working zero hour contracts. KT

[colin twine]

my son is 22 next birthday he was made redundent 10 months ago the jobcentre were a wast of time he wanted help to go self employed in the building trade he has difficulty with reading and spelling so i had to be with him at the interviews thay were not happy about this so we told them to stick it where the sun dont shine . he now has quite a few people and companys who offer him the chance to quote work he works long hours 7 days a week when needed ..

[robpage]

Colin , I actually perceive Job Centre and Job Centre Plus , as being part of the problem . They farm out a lot of their work to agencies that are incentivised , getting you back to work no matter how unsuitable it is is paramount . I refused many years ago to deal with them , I advertised for a Boilerman / Greaser , I worked in Portsmouth , so the area is not short of old stokers , The only ex Navy man they sent me was an Ex Fleet Chief artificer , a little too over qualified , but he enjoyed going for interviews , the other nine consisted of five men who had been unemployed over five years , and did not want a job ,, at least one was an addict if not more of them , the four short listed men , were long term unemployed and when faced with a six AM start three refused the job , One of the remaining two wa saot suitable at all , he should have been a hairdresser not a boiler man , so I took on the only candidate that could do the job ,m he turned up Monday , missed tuesday and wednesday came in Thursday , I asked him where he had been , he said he did not feel like coming in , When he failed to turn up Friday , I gave up ,, and dismissed him . SO I gave up with the job centre , then advertised very expensively in the paper , Portsmouth Evening News , got five ex RN stokers , and took one on , no problems , I asked them all , out of the last batch , why they had not applied at the job Centre . they all dismissed the place a s a joke .

I made myself Redundant / Retired five years ago at 59 , rang the jobcentre to check if my Stamps were suffice and spoke to an obnoxious toss pot , You get down here , is not the way to talk to clients , Job Centre , , well I think it is staffed by the clueless in my experience

[Captain Kong]

I made myself Redundant / Retired five years ago at 59 , rang the jobcentre to check if my Stamps were suffice and spoke to an obnoxious toss pot , You get down here , is not the way to talk to clients , Job Centre , , well I think it is staffed by the clueless in my experience Rob
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I agree with that Rob.
When I was made redundant when Esso sold off all their fleet. I signed on at the job center on Monday morning.
They then told me my signing on day would be on a Wednesday, I said OK see you next week, They said NO this week, I said I would not be here as I am looking for a ship and I will be in Liverpool. as there were very few if any ships in Bolton.
They just said You had better be here or else.
I went to Liverpool and signed on at the Pool, no ships.
Next week I got a letter saying my dole had been stopped as I had refused to sign on. I went down there told them I had signed on in Liverpool as Bolton does not have ships. made no difference, money stopped.
I then wrote to Maggy Thatcher, Number Ten. I got a reply from her and said she would see into it.
I then got a letter from the Head of the Civil Service in Whitehall, London. go back to the job Centre, your dole has been reinstated. I went in and they complained, You have nearly cost us our jobs.
I said ,you should have been sacked then you would know what it feels like on this side of the counter.
Next week I got a job as Mate on a Shell tanker.
Brian.

[Keith at Tregenna]

But the trouble these days the younger generation want to get all the good things a flash house flash car and all the modern things so the have to both go out to work and take big loans to keep up .In our day it was to start off with bringing up a family Mum stayed at home and the old man went to work and to get the things we want slowly.

My folks had orange boxes as furniture in the first new home and moved all the belongings in to the house with a few trips with our prams loaded with all they had and finally us kids.

[Captain Kong]

Just watched a TV prog about Immigration
In Peterborough there are 1600 job vacancies, there are 21,000 Poles living there, They work at a vegetable packing plant on £350 a week with overtime.
So why are there so many Brits out of work?
Is the Benefit system too good?
There were no Benefits years ago,
Just asking
Brian

[robpage]

I knew someone , over sixty years ago , had all their furniture homemade by the dad who was a joiner , from scrap wood and vegetable crates , it was excellent furniture too .


That is exactly what I was eluding to earlier Brian , e have a few packing plants , here and on Selsey , as well as a couple of dairies and food processing plants , these plants either work 6:00 am to 6:00 Pm or double 12 hour shifts 7 days a week . Immigrants , will work their socks off and send every penny home 24/7 if you need them . People settled here have a social life and they are harder to recruit from . One of the issues then becomes , after being let down by locals so many times , you ignore them and employ Petros , or Stavros , or Radich because they are reliable , and hard working ., In the recruitment of staff . you look for the easy route and by pass the Englishman . Wrong but painfully true