Religious Symbols.

[Red Lead Ted]

I recall doing a lifeboat drill at sea while at anchor, I was wearing a signet ring my Mother had gave me as we hoisted the lifeboat back aboard i was left in the boat to hook her up on to the falls, My signet ring got caught in the hook and nearly ripped my finger off. I remember the skipper when the boat was back on the chocks saying to me it is B.O.T. Regulation that you wear no jewelry on deck while working young man. Regards lads Terry.

[j.sabourn]

Gets more like the Nazi doctrines every day. During the war years Hitler apart from persecuting the Jews and Gypsys and doing away with all mentally retarded people, also went after the Freemasons. German Masonry therefore did not exhibit their sign the square and compasses, therefore they assumed the eidleweiss as their emblem most know this as the Forget me not. Even to this day a lot still use. It seems to me that hitler has many clones of himself walking the earth today, as a lot of the middle eastern countries want to carry on where he left off. It is ridiculuous that a person wearing a cross a mark of Christianity should be prevented on doing so, just to comply with the wishes of people of an alien faith and alien to the country to which they want to reside. John Sabourn

[Bill Bland]

Gets more like the Nazi doctrines every day. During the war years Hitler apart from persecuting the Jews and Gypsys and doing away with all mentally retarded people, also went after the Freemasons. German Masonry therefore did not exhibit their sign the square and compasses, therefore they assumed the eidleweiss as their emblem most know this as the Forget me not. Even to this day a lot still use. It seems to me that hitler has many clones of himself walking the earth today, as a lot of the middle eastern countries want to carry on where he left off. It is ridiculuous that a person wearing a cross a mark of Christianity should be prevented on doing so, just to comply with the wishes of people of an alien faith and alien to the country to which they want to reside. John Sabourn

Could not have put it better myself.
Bill Bland

[j.sabourn]

Robin if you wanted to emigrate to Australia it would be better if you came in on a so called refugee boat. Otherwise you wont receive anything and would probably be put on the first plane out. When I emigrated had to prove and sign that I would not be a burden on the state. This I agree with as went to work almost immediately. Also you wont receive free medical or pension unless have worked for at least 10 tax paying years. This I agree with also. The distinct benefits of Australia as against the UK are the Australian pension is better although it is tested according to any other income. Ex members of the Australian Defense Forces are treated much better than in the UK, and we have more sunshine. At the present the country has not got as bad as uk with other ethnic races and religions, although this may change if past performances of so called politicians do not pick up their game plan. Either way at the moment is a choice, although you would probably be better off bludging in the UK, as would find it harder here unless of course a refugee. Cheers John Sabourn

[happy daze john in oz]

It is not a question of being a bigot but of common sense, something in rare quantities these days. For the reasons of 'elf and safety I can fully undestand the need for some jewlery to be removed while in the work place. As food services manager I would not allow any of my staff to wear any form of jewlery, except wedding rings, whilst food handling. If the staff memebr was wearing a religeous artifact such as a cross then they had to make sure it was secure and could not be seen whilst working.
But the situation has now got out of hand, Female Moslems can now request a private room to do banking so they can wear the full burqua, that is reverse discrimination. Recently in Fiji, in some places we had to cover our arms, take off hats and sunglasses to comply with local customs. I had no problem with that, I was a guest in thta country and so it was correct I comply with local customs.
Sadly now in many westen countries the local born have to bow to the demands of the incoming minority. There is definitely something rotten in the state of Denmark!!!!!!

[j.sabourn]

Ted, Dont know where he found that one in any BOT regulation. Must have made it up on the spot. Dont think the Health and Safety would have been around in those good and wonderful years, stupid regulations and do gooders free. Regards John Sabourn.

[John Pruden]

john i think in those days you listened and took notice of the older members of crew{or you got a crack around the ******jp

[leratty]

John re post 27, it is ironic but sadly true. We have a Scandinavian friend whose wife is an Aus, his two children were born in HK but have Aus passports-citizenship, he however can only now get a one year visitors visa, go figure. We have said jokingly we will give him mine but can you imagine the uproar if that was raised (: worth it just to see the reaction. Oh he said when at immigration dept trying to sort this out he is always interviewed by an Indian or some form of ****** in full kit. Yer gotta laugh!
I might be well out of touch with Aus but from my memories with a few exceptions, mainly the Arabs, those who emigrated or arrived by other means, i.e. refugees started with nothing & contributed significantly to the country? Aus would be a sad - dull place without them. It is only since this PC crap has come in & so many of the parties in parliament-the departments handling this sector that it has gone so wrong. We vote them, the pollies in we get what we deserve. We never seem to recall they things they legislate apropos emigration-refugees lwhen the election comes around again. Look at the current gov't, they shut down the off shore refugee camps as inhumane only to reverse that decision at one would think significant cost. Richard

[Captain Kong]

that you wear no jewelry on deck while working young man. Regards lads Terry.
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Hi Ted, when I was a lad in 1952 I was always told by other ABs never to wear rings on deck. Many a seaman has lost his finger when a wire running through his hands had a jag in it that would catch on the ring and rip his finger off.
I have never ever wore a ring, I love my fingers.
Cheers
Brian.

[Robin Ellis]

..... Also you wont receive free medical or pension unless have worked for at least 10 tax paying years.Cheers John Sabourn

John, I have to admit that here in Argentina EVERYONE (even illegals) get free medical treatment, and it is of an extremely high quality. I had 2 visits to the public hospital and could not fault the treatment. The queues were horrendous, but so what? Where we live the population is around 600 people scattered over an area of 100 sq kilometers (about 40 square miles). We have a health centre with free GP, free obstetrician, free pediatrician and free dentist. They are only there in the morning. But we have a full time nurse for minor injuries.

As we live in a remote area we are classed as settlers and we get free chickens (for egg laying or eating) and free vegetable seeds for growing to feed ourselves. Also free farming advice.

So I am, in a way, a sponger - but the difference with the UK is that it is available to all - not just a selected illegal ethnic minority.

Keep on at your politicians, John. Here, deep in the country, it is quite refreshing as everyone is of either South American Indian origin or European settler origin or a mixture of the two.
Our current president keeps toying with the idea of limiting the purchase of land and property by foreigners who are not permanent residents - something the UK might like to consider?

Boltonistan has not (yet) reached us, but I have to admit I would love a decent curry one day or a greasy kebab and chips with extra chilli sauce