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17th May 2016, 08:35 PM
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Re: Worlds Largest Cruise Ship.
We will have to make a Drawbridge out of the Harbour Bridge here at some stage to accommodate all these Monsters coming up! LOL
It is massive!
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17th May 2016, 09:23 PM
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9000 passengers and crew, 18 life boats, what is the capacity of each life boat!!! must have a large number of carley floats as well to accommodate that many people. as brian said, total panic should anything go wrong. It boggles the mind.
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17th May 2016, 10:03 PM
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stan carter
9000 passengers and crew, 18 life boats, what is the capacity of each life boat!!! must have a large number of carley floats as well to accommodate that many people. as brian said, total panic should anything go wrong. It boggles the mind.
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500 Stan, same as a UCL Liners!, some boats
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18th May 2016, 12:39 AM
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#16... Stan is that 16 lifeboats in total or 9 a side. If going by old LSA rules and is 9 a side that would make them 1000 person boats a bit out of this world. If 18 a side would make them 500 person boats, still hard to believe but there you go. More than likely the rules have changed re LSA equipment from our days and liferafts and such are incorporated into the equation today. Someone with the printed formula re todays requirements would have to explain. Maybe the EU have made the rules on this one as they seem good at making the rules for others. JS
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18th May 2016, 03:44 AM
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We enjoy cruising but any ship with any more than 3,000 forget it.


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18th May 2016, 08:08 AM
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Re: Worlds Largest Cruise Ship.
I always sail Holland America now, they only have a max of 1299, this year the Amsterdam on the world cruise just had 900, very comfortable. and you get to know people better.
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18th May 2016, 08:30 AM
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#16... Stan is that 16 lifeboats in total. JS
J.S.
There are 9 lifeboats each side so each boat should be capable of carrying 500 people, ugh!!!!!
Attached is a simple and concise guide to lifeboats type on all ships.
http://www.mar.ist.utl.pt/mventura/P...Lifesaving.pdf
rgds
JA
p.s. If you do a search of Naval Architects sites they show the computer simulated numbers of different age groups/capabilities etc. that have to be taken into account when designing escape plans etc. for passenger ships.
Follow the links in the attached to the MSC Circulars for this.
Also somewhere along the line I have seen a rule that the max capacity of a lifeboat is 150 persons, so don't know if that is true how 9 lifeboats can comply with regulations, they must have liferaft capacity for around 7000 persons then.
Passenger Ship Lifeboats
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18th May 2016, 08:45 AM
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After my time John. what little I did after 1974 still adhered to the simple old rules of having enough boats on each side to carry all on board. Other ships I was on did not have lifeboats just rafts with the semi rigid FRCs. Anyhow rules are made for those who are willing to keep. If any one thinks all countries adhere to such, should take a walk on a North Korean ship. Why do you think so many ships are stopped in Oz. Its not always the Union that stops them. As regards your info. thanks but for anyone who thinks that all ships have the likes of all the illustrations they will be sadly disappointed, I could take the time and read and no doubt most shipowners were going by the minimum LSA requirement. However I sailed for 11 months on a Gibralter registered ship in 1970, whose 4 lifeboats were condemned together with the boat davits which had the usual 2 red bands round to show they were unusable, they must have been in that state for at least 12 months previous. This ship entered into ports such as Capetown, Karachi. Bombay, Singapore, Hong Kong, Taiwan and finally Japan. They are all so called reputable shipping countries, she was stopped once in Singapore but we just sailed in any case. As I have said in a previous post I walked off there in Japan, this was after being previously advised to leave in Hong Kong by the Shipping Master there. As regards the Michelin man suits in 1988 it was rare to see any British North sea ship carrying and on the stand by vessels they carried nothing, their lifesaving gear was for others, the most useful being the Lifebuoy with line attached. Correction they carried 4 boat suits for boat crew. These were usually suits thrown out by air crew from the helicopters at Dyce airport in Aberdeen. I saw and have sailed with the equipment shown but was usually on Scandanavian vessels who had a different approach for their seafarers. I hope for the sake of those British seafarers who are still employed that the LSA gear shown is supplied and adhered to, but it certainly wasn't strictly enforced on a lot of British ships to my knowledge and was in my era just wishful thinking. When working way above 60 north ones sole means for evacuation was either the DOTI boat, the FRC, or a 30 man raft. Best regards JS
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18th May 2016, 02:17 PM
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I read somewhere that on these vessels the way to abandon ship the have a tube, passengers jump in and slide all the way to a raft before embarking into the Life boat.
When I have seen some of these Incredibly Obese FAT American Matrons, They will get stuck and stop anyone else from going down.
Many years ago all cargo vessels had to have Lifeboat accommodation for all hands on one side of the ship.
and Passenger ships enough Life boat accommodation on both side of the ship. the rest was made up with life Rafts.
Have the regulations been changed since??
Brian
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18th May 2016, 02:55 PM
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Re: Worlds Largest Cruise Ship.
What a hideous monstrosity, looks like an hotel on a barge, a death trap. I wonder how much draught it requires, as it looks very eagre to tip over. Should it experience serious engine failure and become adrift in severe stormy weather, one can visualise the mayhem, as thousands of passengers not knowing their whereabouts on such a ship, start an exodus heading "for how many lifeboats?". Next time it ties up at a suitable destination and after all its engine room machinery has been removed, it could be put to safer use as a permanent hotel.
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