Identifying a Cap Badge and Insignia

[psmcdougall]

Hello,

I'm new to this forum, but it seems like the right place to ask this question. I'm trying to identify the cap badge that my Great Grandfather is wearing in this photograph. There seems to be a lion of some kind in the area that usually features the crown. Does anyone know which company this belongs to?



The photo was taken in 1946. His name was William Noel Dawson. He worked for the Royal Mail Steam Packet Co. in the 1920s and then for BTC during WWII, where he was promoted to Master. The last record I have of him lists him as Master of the British Merit in December 1944.

So if anyone can help me identify this cap badge, it would be extremely helpful and much appreciated.

Thank you,

Paul

[Keith at Tregenna]

Initially an hello. certain all will aid and advise.

For a newbie. must ask yourself how you achieved to put the pic in your message. I still tend to add all as an attachment only. Certain much help will be offered and appreciate all assistance myself on somethings.

Hopefully, much will occur.

Regards K

[Hugh]

Hello Paul and welcome,

British Tanker Company although I can't place the lion atop the badge but the lion is certainly part of the company logo.
Regards
Hugh

[psmcdougall]

Thanks Keith. To insert an image you need to have it hosted somewhere else, then add the link by clicking on the photo icon (2nd row 5th from the left)

[psmcdougall]

Thanks Hugh, that helps! Still very curious why that lion is there. Will keep trying to find a later record of him working for BTC. Makes sense though, his son later married the daughter of a BTC Chief Engineer.

[Ray Buck]

Just as an aside
William Noel Dawson 19 years of age (DoB circa 1903), single. a cadet was a passenger on the “Oropesa” when it arrived in New York on the 24th April 1922 having sailed from Southampton on the 13th April 1922 he was in transit
His father was given as W Dawson of Porterlington College Place Southampton

William Noel Dawson was 1st Mate when the “British Sincerity” when she arrived in New York on the 2nd September 1941 having sailed from Liverpool on the 16th August 1941, he signed on in Liverpool on the 28th March 1941 at the age of 38 having been at sea for 23 years he was 5’ – 9” in height and had a scar on the finger of the Right hand
Ray
P.S.
William Noel Dawson DoB 25th December 1902 Dis A No R87080 his medal entitlement
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/d...&resultcount=1

[Ray Buck]

Hugh
Are the sleeve ring in the photograph Royal Navy as opposed to Merchant navy, ?
Ray

[Albert Bishop]

Definitly a BTC cap badge, The Lion comes from the BTC house flag which was three lions of the Persian type, supposed to have been a trbiute to the old Shah of Persia, for consessions they recieved. Or thats how I was told it. Cheers Albi

[Hugh]

Ray,
At first sight it appears that Captain Dawson is wearing the "executive loop" of a Royal Navy officer but I have seen references to other companies using this insignia. Here is a photo of Captain Elford of ss CERAMIC for example.

http://www.caroline.howse.btinternet...ainelford1.jpg Courtesy of http://www.ssceramic.co.uk/

Regards
Hugh

[Ray Buck]

Hugh
Thank you for that , it is a bit confusing, as only the cap badge can be certain to verifies Merchant Navy,
Ray