Identifying a Cap Badge and Insignia

[Doc Vernon]

Just to add to Ray's post #6
Cheers

[psmcdougall]

Thank you all. Seems to be concensus that it's a BTC badge. Cheers. And thank you Ray and Castleman for the extra info. I do have those records, but very much appreciate you finding them and posting them here. Ray, I also wondered about the loops. They threw me for a loop! Thanks Hugh for the reference to the other Captain. And MurialB for the lion info.

If anyone's curious... I do know that he was aboard the Oropesa on his way to Halifax, Canada to join the crew of the Chaleur. A Royal Mail ship that ran the Halifax to West Indies route in the 20s.

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[Ray Buck]

So that the name of the ship he was joining wasn't sure as it is brurred ( or is that Port & Brandy night cap)
Ray

[psmcdougall]

Update: I just acquired this photograph of my other Great Grandfather, John George Detchon. This was probably taken around 1950. At the time he was the Engineer Commodore of the BTC Fleet. His cap badge also features the lion - confirming that it's a BTC badge.

[Doc Vernon]

Thanks for that confirmation,and a very nice Photo too!
I am just so puzzled that i cannot find any reference to that particular Badge (with the Lion) anywhere on the net!
Not even a Pic! Very odd isnt it?
But the proof is there to see so i cannot and would not dispute it!
Possibly one day someone may come up with a Pic of it! (Alone that is)
Cheers

[Ray Buck]

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There was a John George Detchon as Chief Engineer on the “ British Fusilier” which arrived in New York on the 28th February 1945 which had sailed from Aruba on the 19th February 1945 she was expected to sail again 1st March for “Sea”
He was 55 years of age with 34 years of service at sea he was 5’ – 4” in height he signed on in Bombay on the 9th of November 1943

In March 1914 he was 4th Engineer on the “Desabla” later that year he was 3rd Engineer
July 1918 he was 2nd Engineer on the “Plumleaf”,

there were other John George Detchon’s as “ Engineers" with later birth years all frrom North of the Tyne

Ray

[psmcdougall]

Thanks Ray. Yes, those records are definitely him. The younger John George Detchon is his son, my Great Uncle. I have just collected many of my photos and records of these men into a set on Flickr, if anyone's interested:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/crashed...th/4618042338/

One interesting fact I discovered about my great uncle is that he was on the Queen Mary when it secretly transported Winston Churchill to America in May of 1943 to meet with F.D.R. My great uncle was just a passenger, on route to Texas to join another ship, but it must have been exciting when it was announced upon arrival at Staten Island.

[Doc Vernon]

What a great set of Photos and Docs on that Flickr site,it must be so good to have all that !
Wish i had a few like those of my Father,Grandfather etc!
Well done!
Cheers

[Ray Buck]

There is a ships manfest for the 11th May 1943
as attached
Ray

[Graham Griffiths]

Hello Ray,

The rings in the photo are the MN version of the RN rings, they are thinner than RN rings, four stripes in the Royal would fill wrist to elbow (well, nearly).

Various stories as to why BP (among others) were allowed to wear them. I'm sure everyone to wear them as heard a different version.

I'd love to hear them all

Graham