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    #222 probably the whole object of the initial attack on Israel John to keep the fires of insurrection burning. Over 3000 years of the same thing and maybe people were starting to flag and saw an easier way without killing and needed prompting , these way out religions are politics as well. To maintain power they need to have a common enemy. Every country has them in one form or another. In Russia it used to be the commissars , today it is hard to say who they use to keep people in line. JS……
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodney Mills View Post
    On one of my trips to the UK and London about 20 years ago. My late wife and i were invited to stay overnight at my paternal stepbrother and wife's place in London. I had the directions and the tube stop to get off coming from the airport. We left the tube and walked towards...Tower Hamlets.

    It was depressing from the outside, even worse on the inside. Graffiti on the hall walls, every other light bulb out or missing. Garbage and cigarette butts on the floor of the rickety elevator. The smell of cabbage cooking and cigarette smoke was overpowering, as was the blend of Pakistani and rock and roll music on a hundred radios or tape decks.

    The apartment of my stepbrother was small and cramped, they had given up their bedroom for us and were sleeping on the floor and a small couch. He had didn't work, he had a "bad back" and I don't know what the wife's complaint was, but both were unemployed and smoked like chimneys.

    The whole complex of Tower Hamlets was like a penitentiary and equally depressing. There are similar places in the US mainly in New York and Chicago.

    I've been in a large block of flats visiting German friends. The grounds were clean, everything inside both clean and in working order, no graffiti or smells, And the flat, though it too was small, was comfortable and habitable.

    Cheers, Rodney
    I think you should google "Tower Hamlets" and look at the Mayor and all the councillors there. The mayor was done for fiddling the voting system a few years back, by encouraging people that were dead, left the country, or didn't exist there any more, to vote for him. But, he got banned for standing for so many years, but is back as Mayor again.
    Tower Hamlets is the old East End of London, but now a fully functioning part if Asia. What an awful place it is now.

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    #216 Rodney, I think you may have misunderstood my earler post. When we register for inclusion on the Electoral roll. We are not asked what our political preference is.
    You are registering your right to vote in Local and General elections.
    On the ballot paper there is a list of candidates. Labour , Conservative Lib Dems and whoever else is standing.
    You put an X against the party and candidate of your choice . If you put anything else on the ballot paper you have spoiled your vote and it will not be counted.
    The system here is known as first past the post

    What you have described if I understand correctly is Proportational representation.

    As far as I am aware the only place in the UK that uses (PR)Proportational Representation is in Northern Ireland and even then that is only used for local and assembly elections.

    For many years here in the UK the Lib Dems among other smaller parties have been complaining that the UK system of elections is unfair as the method used is First past the post.
    I cannot see the likes of the Conservatives or Labour ever agreeing to change the first past the post method. If they did in all likelyhood you would never have a Conservative or Labour government again.

    I think we would always have a coalition government which may not be a bad thing?

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    The news isn't good is it? They are threatening our (so called) politicians for not complying with their demands. Those numpties on the marches will only have their eyes opened when the ****** hordes are coming down their street waving machete's. It might be a tad late then.

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    Don't be worrying now,we have in our group these fine upstanding men. I am sure will hold the hoardes back.
    Just think we could even call for the assistance from our Aussie friends .kn42l01vyj5ympxeudxa.jpg

    We are not all doomed!!!!!

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    Well James, they'd be a damn sight better than the cops.

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    Nothing wrong with the police, it is the lawyers and politicians is the problem.
    Example you give an armed officer a gun he uses it in the line of duty , then he is charged with murder!
    Ref: Chris Kaba shooting.

    Chris Kaba was a member of the rap group 67, who was shot dead by police in Streatham Hill, London, England, on 5 September 2022. On the day of the shooting, an unmarked vehicle followed the car Kaba was driving (which had been linked to a firearms incident the previous day) until it met a police road block. Armed police who had been in a marked car approached on foot. Witnesses said that Kaba refused to leave the car and drove it into one of the police cars. One of the armed officers fired a single round at Kaba through the car windscreen. He was taken to hospital but died of his injuries the following day. The Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) then began an investigation into the shooting.

    This Kaba had a bit of a wrap sheet involving fire arms. His family said he was only killed because he was of his skin colour.

    On 21 September the family of the deceased viewed the police body-worn camera footage of the incident. Afterwards, Kaba's cousin said that they now wanted justice, but would take a step back from campaigning

    In September 2023, a police officer was charged with Kaba's murder.


    Any wonder the police think at times why bother!!!
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    Des.

    I can only base my info. on the continuing reports of this poll or that poll. his base, Democrats and a majority section of the Independant's, lay the problem at his age. 80-year-old now and would be 84 at the end of his second term. The funny thing is Trump is no spring chicken, he is only 3 years younger than Biden at 77 and would be 81 at the end of his term if he was elected.

    The obvious question is where are all the middle-aged politicians? There are a few trying to make a go on the Republican side, but Trump and his constant anticks and outrageous claims crowd them out of the news. Trump's favorability among his base of the Republican party is 48% and the other 6 candidates in the ring share 52%. If this holds true going into the Republican convention, then Trump will win the parties selection and will be the Republican Candidate.

    There are one or two Democrats making a little noise about running against Biden. But unless something totally unseen happens he will be the Democrat's candidate.

    The Democrats are making noises about Trump's age. So, it will probably get "down and dirty" "before the fat lady sings". That's an Americanism for the end. It comes from taking the piss out of Grand Opera. The middle-aged fat soprano usually sings the last airer as either she or the lead male lays dying in the last act.

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    John, JSW. #218.

    I wasn't knocking council housing John; I Was knocking Tower Hamlets. I too lived in a council house, for three years with my grandparents in Chingford Hatch, Essex. Nothing wrong with either the house, neighbors, other kids or the schools. From time to time as I returned to England either business or pleasure I would stop and visit my Gran. Chingford Hatch had never changed still was a nice neighborhood. It went from a council estate to homeowners as the council offered a very good deal to the sitting tenants.

    Cheers, Rodney.
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    James #225.

    Let's assume your UK election is coming up and the potential party member for x party dies and six people of the x party want to be the upcoming candidate, how is the determination made?

    Who determines who is going to be a party's candidate? The party or voters?

    If you decided, you wanted to be Prime Minister and you were just a member of a political party or non-affiliated, not an MP, and had personal funds to pay for ads, etc. could you run for election as individual candidate, and if you won, could you be Prime Minister?

    Cheers, Rodney
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