Researching grandfather

[Sarah Clark]

Hello, I am trying to find information on my grandfather. William Joesph Gray. From Newry Northern Ireland. He sailed on MV Huntsmore in 1959/1960. He went missing on January 21st 1960 and pronounced dead on his birthday January 24th. He is presumed buried in Rosario Brazil.

[Doc Vernon]

Hello Sarah
Just a start here will look deeper into it later.
Thank you for joining and asking the question,there will be others in time that will assist!
Cheers

Here is link to his Seamans Pouch

R529206 GRAY W J 24/01/1933 NEWRY

R529206 GRAY W J 24/01/1933 NEWRY | The National Archives

I am not 100% sure on this Sarah but the Ship you mention also has Deaths at Sea,was he lost at Sea?
This is a link of that ship with details but would cost,and as said not sure if it would hold information relating to your query??
Cheers

Hek-Hun | The National Archives

If his CRS10 is till available it should be found in this Record Section.
This will have a lot more info on it.

Gray Vincent Campbell Stewart to Green D W | The National Archives

[Sarah Clark]

Thank you very much Vernon. Yes he was lost at sea. I have very little information. My grandmother folly found out about his death many weeks later. She was told that he was already buried in Rosario Brazil.
It is only recently we found out he was lost at sea from January 21 - 25 1960.
I have tried to locate his grave in Rosario through the internet but with no luck.

[Doc Vernon]

Hello Sarah
In that case that Link I gave should then hole Record of his Death at Sea!
Cheers

[Sarah Clark]

Thank you again Vernon. The link asks which records I would like. Should I write death at sea?

[Doc Vernon]

Which Link is that one Sarah??
The Deaths at Sea one just follow the links as you click them.
Request Copy

Page Check Request

Get Started
Order Certified Copy (Add name of Person and Ship and dates etc in Box!
Cheers

Do you know the exact name of the Cemetery he was buried AT??
Brazil has a few! At Rosario


PS Going off now Sarah will resume later Today.

[Sarah Clark]

I have requested copy from your link. I hope this gives me some more information.
Yes we were told it was in Rosario Brazil. Unfortunately that is the only information we have as my grandmother has long since passed. Thank you for all your help.

[j.sabourn]

Just looking at your post through bleary eyes as have just got up Sarah, and have not followed. But just see what you have written. If his death was recorded at Rosario and the same Rosario that I remember it is unlikely that he died at sea. Rosario is way up the River Plate above Buenos Aires , and the ship would have been cleared by immigration probably at Buenos Aires and his death would have been recorded there to my way of thinking. Regards JWS.

[j.sabourn]

Sarah
have just had the following info. sent to me via someone outside the site. Am not literate enough to transfer the whole text to site but it contains the following info. you may already have , as I don't know how far you have got but was sent to me with all good intentions
From the British armed forces and overseas deaths and burials Transcriptions.
William Joseph Gray
26 years of age.
Birth year 1934
British Newry Codown
death year 1960
Death Place Rosario
place Huntsmore of Grt Britain
Archive ref. BT 334
Box 0112

If you want the full text including the ships photo send me an email address via PM that I can send the whole caboodle to. I can do that, I just cant transfer things to the site, the reason why I never put anything such as pretty pictures up .

Regards JWS

[Doc Vernon]

All help appreciated here ,on the info you have given JS I wonder if the Place also called the same as the ship?? Bit confusing! Will wait for reply from Sarah

Same info here

First name(s)William Joseph

Last nameGray

Year1960

PlaceHuntsmore

CountryGreat Britain

Archive referenceBT 334

SourceDeaths At Sea 1891 – 1972

Your post JS shows this

British Armed Forces And Overseas Deaths And Burials

LocationHuntsmore, Great Britain I feel that although it may be the same person?? It is actually from Armed Forces relating to Army RAF or RN ?? We are looking for Deaths at Sea which is also shown ,so wonder now ?? Must look at all avenues