thank you for the welcome.

[Keith at Tregenna]

The more information that can be given or indeed found may help discover more ? K.

Marriages Sep 1910

Hunt Joseph J. Prescot 8b 1264

[gray_marian]

Thank you Keith, good man. Confusing that Ancestry have several JJ Hunt's born between 1880-1890 Wrexham & Prescot hence the need to know wife's name otherwise I'm having to search the paths of them all!


Ivor, There are 152 excerpts from US & world newspapers in FMP 1800-1970's when I type in your uncle's name & French Indo China. Will post later tonight if I find any pertaining to him.


Four pages[40 excerpts] would not open the rest negative, sorry.

Below is the result of the 191 passenger/crew lists for Jos J.Hunt

Name: J J Hunt
Age: 21
Birth Year: abt 1889
Birth Place: Wrexham
Event Date: 1910
Port of Registry: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Ship Name: Oronsa
Official Number: 123986
Reference Number: 387CRE/647
Wages: £6.10/-11d

Name: J J Hunt
Age: 23
Birth Year: abt 1887
Birth Place: Wrexham
Event Date: 1910
Address: 4, Eccleston St, Preston
Port of Registry: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Ship Name: Lake Champlain
Official Number: 110650
Wages on discharge £1.3/-10d [hope I've written that properly]
Reference Number: 387CRE/509

Name: Jos J Hunt
Age: 23
Birth Year: abt 1888
Birth Place: Wrexham
Event Date: 1911
Port of Registry: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Ship Name: Trafford Hall
Official Number: 170906
Reference Number: 387CRE/818
Wages £3.18/-2d
Rank & address same as before AB

[Keith at Tregenna]

Possibly not Wrexham ?


HUNT JOSEPH 1890 — 1890 England & Wales births 1837-2006 Prescot, Lancashire, England

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[Keith at Tregenna]

Added.

Marriage:

1910

Prescot, Lancashire, England

Bride: Alice Appleton

Others: George Brownbill, Mary A Sephton
(Most likely witnesses)

[gray_marian]

Keith my darlin' don't make this harder than it is, my bahookie is numb sitting here this long
If I'm reading Ivor correctly his uncle was born between 1880-1887 in Wrexham, married 1910 in Prescot 36 miles between the two, hopefully an English member will confirm if L/pool is nearby as I think extended family come from there. One more site to look at then off to sleep

Re #24 Have already matched Alice Appleton in an earlier post but Ivor's post#15 said it wasn't
a match, though it matches the headstone details you posted, so waiting for Ivor to confirm either way. Plus Alice's family address is the same home address for James listed on the crew lists.

Keith these are the other sites which may be useful but they don't open here can you work your magic?

Maritime history records held in the UK and overseas(link is external)
Looking for records of a merchant seaman serving between 1858 and 1917(link is external)
Looking for records of a birth, marriage or death of a British national at sea or abroad(link is external),
Crew Lists of the British Merchant Navy - 1915(link is external), from the National Maritime Museum
Merseyside Maritime Museum Archive(link is external) - "one of the finest collections of merchant shipping records in the UK".

The above is courtesy of a member here, Benjidog Nautical Resources(link is external) - a collection of sets of web pages, mainly related to the merchant navy.

Nos da

[Keith at Tregenna]

Prescot is a town and civil parish within the Metropolitan Borough of Knowsley in Merseyside, England. Historically part of Lancashire, it lies approximately eight miles (13 km) to the east of Liverpool city centre.

K X

[ivor evans]

Morning folks.
First, thanks for your input so far. one of the problems is the number of J Hunts in the area. however a number of them have DoD's outside of the Search Area as deaths took place within the UK. so they can be discounted. of the rest, i have made an''Executive Decision'' i am accepting the Wrexham Man as my relative. I know the area as after my father died in 1948. my mother re married, a farmer on a mountain between Wrexham and Mold.
Second. i am finding it difficult to access info re persons dying in the Far east. in fact finding anything about the area is difficult. The reason i have not answered before is that i have been looking at the area during WW1 and have found some interesting stuff. Not relating to Cholera as someone mentioned. but to a couple of Rebellions against the French around that time. The first in an area called COCHINCHINA.in 1916. this appears to have been in the South of the country. and i can recall my aunt speaking about this, this is probably over 60 years ago so memory is not bad but ... The Second one is in an area named THAI NGUYEN in this some 300 regular soldiers liberated some 200 political prisoners and they held the area for some time until the French went in and re took it. Now the interesting thing here is that i can recall Photographs of armed men etc, the pics were around for many years but sadly got lost in one of my many house moves. It was not until yesterday that i realized they could have been related to one of these Rebellions.
This makes me wonder if he and possibly other UK Seamen were in some way not quite what the seemed, as i have seen records that might indicate that there was a Military connection to some Merchant Seamen,and were somehow involved and he died because of injuries or wounds received in this incident. I imagine records would have been kept but as to where i have No Idea.
I appreciate that you folks are Very Knowledgeable, but this may be outside your remit. But if Anyone can come up with a Clue as to where to look it would be very much appreciated.

[Captain Kong]

When we evacuated the French Military and Foreign Legion from Indo China after the Battle of Dien Bien Phu, which meant the end of French Rule, we were running our life boats ashore for them under fire from the Viet Minh, We lost a lot of French military on the beach, but fortunately none of us,
So it is quite possible he was in an operation very similar to that, but with different consequences.
Cheers
Brian

[gray_marian]

Good Afternoon Ivor, You didn't mention if you had Googled the 5 links provided from the "Benjidog" list that were referred to in#25. These were my last ports of call [pun intended] Alas with three days left to Christmas just don't have the time at present. The chaps here are a mine of information so keep looking in.
Good luck & A Merry Christmas to you.