Finding more about my grandfather.Edward Carroll

[Ann Sutton]

Hello I hope someone can help me,I am trying to find more out about my grandfatherEdward Carroll Born 13/7/1908. merchant seaman records.
all i have is one photogragh of him relating to his record on seamans id card with his photo and other details saying he signed on mv londoner 7/4/!966,I can't make out his masters signature it looks like (Az Pard)
on the back of this card
its gotsigned on mv australind 11/11/1966.
My mother & uncle have told me he was bombed during ww2 while taking supplies to normandy,he was moving with the yanks to Omaha beach when his shipp was torpedod/Bombed.
They travelled from the top of Norway with Russian convoys & i was told it was very dangerous.
My grandfather lived till he was 72 in 1980.
My childhood memories are of him away at sea,I know Japan was one of his favourite places 7 i can remember his home trips.He went on to have a small boat which he kept in balloch,Loch Lomand & i can remember going there as a child.
i would love it if i could find out a bit more of his life at sea..

Hopefully someone out there can help.
Thanks Ann

[Tony Morcom]

Hi Anne and welcome to this great site. I have so far found the following quote on another MN site which will be of interest and tracked down the photo mentioned. I will post more as I find it.

I served on the MV Londoner from 1961 to 1966 as an Engineer. All the ships you guys are asking about are NOT the Oregon Steamship Companies Londoner. That is certainly the House Flag of Oregon. On my Londoner The O in the Green Diamond was on the Funnel as well as the Bow,
She was Sulzer powered. All the Officers both deck and engineering never changed all the years I was with her. The Skipper was Capt Peaz, Chief Officer Ernie Walters, Chief Engineer Bill Finch, 2nd Engineer Freddie Miller (Whose father was Coxwain of the Seaham Harbour Lifeboat when all handa were lost round about 1964). Most of the time I worked aboard the Londoner, we were running Grain from the States to the UK. We did the occasional run to South Africa and Japan. There is a Photgraph of my Londoner on the Site "Ships Nostalgia" and the Site "All at Sea". Hope I have been of help.

Ray Wheeler 3rd Engineer

[Doc Vernon]

Hello Ann
Not sure if i am reading your request correct!
Do you allraedy have his Seamans Papers!? Or just a little snippet!
Anyway just in case here is tyhe Link for his papers,from here you can order them!
Hope this may help you in your quest!
Cheers and Welcome to the site!
Hope others will also be of assistance,as i am sure there will be more to follow!
Cheers

The National Archives | The Catalogue | Full Details | BT 391/16/107

Item reference BT 391/16/107

Name: Carroll, Edward. Service number: R304021. Date of birth: 13/07/1908.

[Ann Sutton]

Thank you both very much.

I clicked on the link to the archives and now waiting on the records coming to me.

Yes Doc i only have a photo of the front & back of the ID card i mentioned.

Do you have any more information on any of the other ships he sailed on?

I am so gratefull for your fast response.

Once again Thanks

Regards Ann

[Doc Vernon]

Hello Ann
No unfortunately not Ann,but when you get his full Seamans Papers as i hope you will,it should contain his Ships listings.
Please do keep us informed as to what transpires!
Thank you
Cheers

[Ann Sutton]

Thanks Doc,Yes i will keep you posted on what i recieve from the Archives.

[Ann Sutton]

Hi I received the papers from the archives,It is saying my grandfather was on a ship called the wheatcrop..
I can't seem to find out anything about this ship,Can anyone out there help?

Thanks
Ann

[Ray Buck]

Ann
“Wheatcrop” official No 145737 registered Cardiff Built 1924
Ray

[Ray Buck]

Ann
He may have a record CRS10 in the 5th register which should be in BT 382/289 Carrick L to Carroll J covering dates 1941 Jan - 1943 Dec

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what you appear to have received is Registry of Shipping and Seamen: War of 1939-1945; Combined Office Merchant Navy Operations, Seamen's Pouches BT 391 series
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Ray

[Gulliver]

Hello Ann,
Just a few more details in addition to Ray's:-


s.s. WHEATCROP (Official No 145737) was a 523 ton coastal cargo vessel of the Spillers) S.S.Co..Built 1/1924 by Hansen SB & Repair Co of Bideford,Devon.
Spillers (the grain millers) owned a fleet of coasters over the years to transport grain to their many mills.

Length 49.4m;Beam 7.8m.
Engine 2 cyl.compound giving 9 knots.
History
Sold 1953 to J.S.Monks and renamed ROCKVILLE
7/1956 Broken Up at Barrow
A picture can not be found at the moment,but if one of her sister WHEATPLAIN can be found,then she is identical to the Wheatcrop.

Regards

Gulliver