Im new to this site

[Red Lead Ted]

No Terry, William Wheelright long after my time in PSNC,I left PSNC in 1958, could see that promotion in those days "was deadmens shoes" in that company, sailed with 3rd mates who had 1st mates tickets and 2nd mates with Masters tickets, what was the point! it escaped me!, but each to his own.Runs were fairly regular but I sailed with PSNC men who had known nothing but the WCSA for 30 years plus, I wanted to see the world. Saw it on one trip with Ropners 22 months away! but it was great.

Mind you the best coast for a young man was certainly the WCSA.

I was Supt with one company we still had a steamer running in the mid 70's, but as you say most were sold to the Greeks or the Maldive Shipping Company who ran about 50 ships most of them steam. The President of that company The Right Honourable Ali Maniku a Maldivian, whom I met in the 70'sin Dubai never took notes in a meeting, but could remember what every ship in his fleet had on board at any one time and when it was given to them, when sitting in a meeting with him and four of his ships in port (I was after the Agency) it got 4 requisition lists, as he was reading them he was saying they had that in xx whilst at xyz then cross it out. Never met anyone with a memory like his, not even Lesley Welch!

Ihad a few lucky escapes mate The Wheelwright was always going through Liverpool pool wanting crews whenever she was on the chalk board you new the bloody pool would empty out. Its a pity The Right Honourable Ali Manuka and a few more like him didn't have as good a memory when it came to paying there taxes ?? Maybe the Greeks etc... wouldn't be in such a mess today .Regards Ivan Terry.

[Jim Brady]

Talking of steam on deck would not a tanker being built today still be steam on deck?I understood everything on deck on tankers were steam operated for obvious reasons as you could not have electricity anywhere near the tanks,maybe todays technology has everything hermetically sealed thus avoiding electical spark problems.
Regards.
Jim.B.

[happy daze john in oz]

Think there may still have been a few steam powered ships around until tne 90's. A number of UCL and others were sold to other shipping companies such as Greek, some may still be around today.

[john sutton]

when I was on the Accra in 50 we took on crewboys for the coast trip.One of them was actually named Steam on deck.Apparently christened with that name
john sutton

[Ivan Cloherty]

Ihad a few lucky escapes mate The Wheelwright was always going through Liverpool pool wanting crews whenever she was on the chalk board you new the bloody pool would empty out. Its a pity The Right Honourable Ali Manuka and a few more like him didn't have as good a memory when it came to paying there taxes ?? Maybe the Greeks etc... wouldn't be in such a mess today .Regards Ivan Terry.

Hi Terry

Don't see what RT Hon Ali Maniku has to do with our or Greek taxes, he wasn't liable to pay UK taxes. He was Maldivian, Vice President of the Maldives, all his ships were registered in the Maldives. He used British and Maldivian crews. He bought only ex British ships that were being replaced by newer models in their owners fleets. Its as we discussed earlier, emerging nations wanted their own Merchant Navies, its evolution, good for some, not so good for others but nothing to do with taxes due the UK

Rgds

Ivan

[Captain Kong]

when I was on the Accra in 50 we took on crewboys for the coast trip.One of them was actually named Steam on deck.Apparently christened with that name
john sutton

I have a photo of Steam on Deck, taken in 1953 onboard the TARKWA, he is on the right of the photo , he had a straw hat with his name `Steam on Deck` painted on. not on when the photo was taken. He was quite a popular Kroo Boy. These Kroo Boys had muscles that Mr Universe would die for.
This was in Sapele Creek.

[Captain Kong]

Talking of steam on deck would not a tanker being built today still be steam on deck?I understood everything on deck on tankers were steam operated for obvious reasons as you could not have electricity anywhere near the tanks,maybe todays technology has everything hermetically sealed thus avoiding electical spark problems.
Regards.
Jim.B.

Hi Jim,
When I was sailing on ESSO VLCCs, 256,000 tons in the 70s they were Steam Turbines but they became too expensive to operate. The newer built tankers became Motor Ships. Diesel engines were much more economical.The Pumps were operated from there, and other equipment were operated by hydraulics.
Cheers
Brian

[Red Lead Ted]

Hi Terry

Don't see what RT Hon Ali Maniku has to do with our or Greek taxes, he wasn't liable to pay UK taxes. He was Maldivian, Vice President of the Maldives, all his ships were registered in the Maldives. He used British and Maldivian crews. He bought only ex British ships that were being replaced by newer models in their owners fleets. Its as we discussed earlier, emerging nations wanted their own Merchant Navies, its evolution, good for some, not so good for others but nothing to do with taxes due the UK

Rgds

Ivan

Think you misunderstood my point mate. All these Greek/ ETC.. Ships were flags of convenience as we all know. Not many of the owners paid any taxes not to the uk but there own country. If you take for instance Greece the whole nation never paid many dues. And with the Euro being in the state it is and the Greeks wanting a referendum on austerity which only prolongs there exit from the euro zone and throws the rest of the E.U. into stalemate sorry state of affairs buddy with only themselves to blame. Regards Ivan Terry.