Election Mode

[Des Taff Jenkins]

Hi All
An Election is being held in Aus today, one of the most controversial in a long time. Do we vote for the Liberal Party, who want to buy Atomic Subs from America and keep the cold war going, or the Labour Party who want to spend the money on more pressing things like Housing
and Jobs.
I was surprised to get an email from the Liberals, [Where did they get my e-mail address from?} I also got one from Labour, but they had mine from previously, as I used to email the local member. is nothing sacred anymore.
Des

[j.sabourn]

Maybe from the RSL Des ? Big Brother is watching you. When we first came out here in 1991 we had no computer and didn’t have for a number of years. I wanted to stay incommunicado as soon as we got one the first ones who had my email address was the press. They certainly didn’t get it from me. JS

[Doc Vernon]

Been there done my bit be it L or L ?? lol
Dont really care much at all!
No matter who comes in, we still get hammered from all sides! Cannot Win!

[happy daze john in oz]

Who to vote for is the burning question,
To vote or not to vote that is the question Whether tis nobler in the mind to suffer the current lot or by making change take up a pencil and vote differently.
To wish, to dare, but in that dare what problems may come, to improve or better our selves , aye there is the rub'

Apologies to the Bard.

Such confusion as to who is best suited, stay with Scomo or go to the new group. Albosleasy and the retreads.
There are about 8 in his party who served under Rudd, agghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

But if we are to love in a democracy where all are entitled to their say the changes will take place from time to time.
Labour have only been in office for 6 of the past 25 years.

I know if they win Des will be happy, and why not, he is entitled to his choice as am I and others.

My only concern is the left wing strong leaning of the current Labor leader.

[j.sabourn]

#4 I can only say as I found John .As regards when I took up residence out here was a labour government in and the seafarers were the best off I have ever seen , so my tendencies are to vote for a labour government who were more susceptible to the maritime unions insistence. However saying that I realize that is being a bit obtuse as a country doesn’t run on one particular part of the community. I don’t care what other people vote for , I just vote for the person who I think appears to be the better choice, I find Aberneezer reminds me of Charles Dickens and I can discern that squeaky voice of what the Aussies usd to call us Whingeing pomegranates or whatever , it gives me no pleasure to listen to his voice which immediately puts me off. Mine to him and many others might have the same affect to them also, but I am not trying to go for the highest job in the land so couldn’t care less. Of the two on personalities and appearance and their profile on the world stage , I,would prefer what Australia had at present. The old saying if it works don’t change it , I go along with. It will certainly be cheaper than to have to go along with all the policy changes which will come , with the whinging squeaky voice as well coming
with the bargain , which I very much doubt will be a bargain . Cheers JS........

[Doc Vernon]

Well as many here know i am not into Politics, but just to say that a New Prime Minister has been Elected! I wonder what it will bring forth! To me as said it really means Zilch! LOL

[Des Taff Jenkins]

The Conservatives were cruelled by the Prime Minister, he picked a candidate that attacked the Transgender community, many people thought that was underhanded. But he was brought down not by Labour, but by some amazing women Independents, they are rich yes, but they want Climate Change, and they want an Integrity Commission in Federal Parliament, something that the PM promised in the last election and then refused to implement. I think it would have put some of his Ministers behind bars. There is a chance that the Treasurer will be defeated by another of these women, his seat has been in Conservative hands since Federation.
What got Labour over the line was the promise that he will see that the ordinary working people of this country get a pay rise after 10 years of rising prices through a 7% inflation rate. The former Aboriginal Minister who also lost his seat, He was calling for a big pay rise, for politicians.
Ds

[j.sabourn]

Well we must all congratulate Abaneeze and wish him well for the good of the country . Hope he doesn’t go back to frog submarines and such like and makes good on all his promises . He may be the last PM a lot of us see . He’s the people’s choice that’s the only thing that counts. So he starts off a winner , and hope he stays a winner during his tenure. . JS

[happy daze john in oz]

The ALP refused to put the integrity bill through the senate.
In the news last week the reason why from a lawyer, it would have seen more ALP members than Coalition in trouble. Only need to see our lot here in Victoria to know that.
ALP lowest primary vote in their history, why?
Many did not want the PM, but did not want Labor either so voted independent or Green.
I do not have any love of Labor, that from a guy who in his younger days thought there was no one like Labor, goes back to the days we owned the pubs in UK, and a couple of Union issues here.

But Thankfully Labor will not need the support of independents or worse still Greens.

All we ask is stable gov no matter which party is in, but I do think some will be very dissapointed when wages do not rise, cost of living does not go down.
There are too many global factors which at present at that effect these matters.

Having worked in aged care I fully support an increase in the wage for the workers, how ever the cost of such will be passed on to the residents of the homes, all of which are a business and want to make a profit. Top do so they employ the legal lowest number of staff and pay the lowest legal wage.

There are many global matters currently which will impact us here in Oz, but for Des I am happy, he now has a gov he will like and no doubt respect.

To quote Richard 3, almost

'Now is the winter of our discontent made glorious summer by this Labor win, and all the clouds that lourd upon our house."

For you Des, for putting up with SCMO and me.

[Graham Shaw]

Talking of Australian politics I have just seen the following article on a Manchester Facebook group (We Grew Up in Manchester,)about a feisty remarkable woman,Adela Pankhurst,the youngest daughter of Emmeline Pankhurst,the suffragette.
Like many in this country I had not heard of her ,perhaps her achievements,and escapades were overshadowed by her famous mother,but Adela left her mark in two countries at opposite ends of the world.....

'Adela Pankhurst was born in Chorlton-on-Medlock on June 19th in 1885. She was the youngest daughter of Emmeline and Richard Pankhurst.A sickly child, for a time she wasn't expected to live. She wore splints on her legs and didn't learn to walk until she was 3. Little Adela was happy at her first school in Southport and she was very bright. But when she went to Manchester Girls’ High School, she hated it and once tried to run away. The death of her father when she was 15 played a part in her deep unhappiness. When she reached 18, her teachers recommended she go on to a women's college in Oxford, but her mother was against it. Adela fell ill with scarlet fever and on recovery it was too late to start at Oxford, so she was sent instead to finishing school in Switzerland.
On her return to Manchester, Adela went against her mother’s wishes and trained to become a primary school teacher. Like her older sisters, Christabel and Sylvia, Adela also became increasingly involved in the suffragette movement. She once disrupted a speech by Winston Churchill. As a burly policeman was forcibly ejecting her from the hall, she slapped his hand and was arrested for assault. Found guilty, she refused to pay the fine and was sent to Strangeways prison for 7 days. She went on hunger strike, becoming one of the first suffragettes to do this.
She was one of the hardest workers for the cause of women's rights. She was targeted by the police, frequently arrested and went through imprisonment and hunger strikes.k Both Sylvia and Adela quarrelled with their mother and with Christabel over tactics. Adela didn’t like the increasingly violent methods. She and Sylvia also strongly opposed their mother's willingness to accept the vote for just middle-class women. Adela wanted the vote for all women. After a bitter row, Adela left the movement in 1911. Struggling with ill health, she found solace doing gardening work.
When the 1st World War broke out in 1914, Emmeline Pankhurst supported the war effort, but Adela was strongly against the war. To prevent Adela being an embarrassment to her, Emmeline bought Adela a one-way ticket to Australia. Emmeline would never see her daughter again.
Once in Australia, Adela started a peace movement there and toured the country. She married a union leader in 1917 and had 5 children (Emmeline never met them). In 1920, Adela founded the Australian Communist Party, but she was soon disillusioned with communism, she quarrelled with the others and they expelled her.
During the 2nd World War, she became a founder member of the fascist “Australia First Movement”. She was interned in 1942-43 for calling for peace with Japan. She was released as her husband was dying. Adela then gave up politics. She died in Wahroonga ,north Sydney in 1961, at the age of 75. Her name and picture are on the plinth of the statue of Millicent Fawcett in Parliament Square, London. [ -Dame Millicent Fawcett GBE 1847-1929 was an English suffragist,politician and writer].