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25th February 2022, 12:14 PM
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Re: Ukraine
Couple of days ? It’s already history . JS.
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25th February 2022, 02:35 PM
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i think hitler had the same idea about Europe and look what happened to him the people now are fighting for their own country and yes promise a Nuremberg type thing after this is over i think someone will take putin out he is not liked by many and the rich have the power money talks? this is just my view but if you are dealing with snake you have to take the head off the credibility has died of Russia all over apart from china me thinks?? jp
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25th February 2022, 03:42 PM
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Re: Ukraine
agree John, if by freezing his mates money, and there is lots of it round the world, they will not be best pleased. money is the most powerful weapon known to man, just my opinion, others may disagree, kt
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25th February 2022, 05:35 PM
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According to various reports at one time or another, Putin has allegedly salted $35b out of the Russian economy.
Block access to this money and that might bring him to his senses.
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25th February 2022, 06:59 PM
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Re: Ukraine
vic he has just had his 75 million boat taken out of a shipyard still under repair? jp
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25th February 2022, 08:52 PM
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Vic , I know you said that the Biden family has no oil and gas interests in the Ukraine , but all information over here says that the son Hunter has a great
interest in this industry.
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25th February 2022, 08:58 PM
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Putin i feel is after more than just Ukraine, once he has Taken it, he will try and carry on with other states Bordering Ukraine , his Goal i feel may be to Re Establish the USSR as oy was before!?????
Just my thoughts Lads!
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25th February 2022, 09:04 PM
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You could be correct Doc, I think he will go for Moldova next, small country no army to speak of.
He will be like a dog gnawing on a bone.
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25th February 2022, 09:10 PM
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Agree Doc, and as he gets bolder and bolder with no opposition really, he may one day really test the situation , and try Georgia, who i believe are in NATO, .
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25th February 2022, 11:54 PM
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As regards money for the every day populace of Russia they must be on a par for nearly the lowest paid populance world wide. Cheers They are used to be that way. In 1998 or thereabouts and working on A Russian survey ship off the coast of Australia, the Russian master was on the equivilant of about 58 pounds a month , his wife a teacher in the Ukraine was earning 38 pounds a month. The ship itself carried 35 of a Marine crew and if under western manning would of had 9. When one talks about money one has to assume it is for the country to pay for its imports, at the moment there are countries who will not abide by the rules nato are trying to set up ,e,g. Are some South American countries China, and even India up to now does not agree. Russia believe it or not apart from all the shouting of solidarity does have friends world wide ,who know when to speak and not to speak. It may be an inconvenience to Russia to have his bank credit stopped , but will not have the huge effect some hope for.
All the shouting about the Ukraine joining nato in the first place gave Putin the chance to do what he is doing now. Putin like more of his ilk in Russia has been brought up after the war and saw parts of their Empire disintegrate over their own lifetimes . What has happened has been magnified by poor political and only one response of what they hear all the time, it’s our way or the highway . If Europe especially Germany a former Fascist State was in the forefront of wanting the Ukraine into the boys club , there may have been a different conclusion. Dont forget in your history books which the Russian people also read Germany and Russia had a non action agreement between themselves and were going to divide Poland between themselves, Hitler lost the war because he chose to stab Stalin in the back ,break up the agreement ,invade the Ukraine , and was a quick way of him losing the war. Russia went on with the allies to win the war , and in the consequence afterwards slowly through the word Democracy saw the break up of nearly all its satellite countries . Whatever you say about Putin he is a man of the world he was brought into and brought up in , his patriotism to his own , is not in doubt to my mind. I don’t believe the banks will break him. The only thing they break is the ordinary working man by foreclosing on his mortgage.
Cheers JS
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