rail unions

[cappy]

I Liked Maggie Thatcher, She backed me up against my own "working class" clerks in the Dole office when they stopped my Dole when I was in Liverpool signing on at the Pool, with a written Note from the Pool to say I was there looking for a ship, I told them I had to be there as there are no ships in Bolton being 40 miles away from the Sea,
YOU WILL D0 AS WE SAY ," THEY TOLD ME, "YOUR MONEY IS STOPPED." I had a mortgage and two kids to look after. so Nothing, not a penny.
I wrote to Maggie and she wrote back saying "Go Back in and you will be OK".
I went in and they said You nearly got us sacked , I said you should have been then you know what it feels like this side of the Counter,
They were not happy.
So Maggie will always be good in my eyes.,
Brian

###thats interesting.......brian i suppose the union would have said our hands are tied..and asked you to pay your dues......the world looked up to maggie and our country.........jeez anyone could buy there own home.....but the unions didnt want the workers to have anything of there own......reason people would think for themselves......see prescotts son is an advisor to corbyn now.....jeez why should england tremble.......cappy

[vic mcclymont]

#60 Ted, Wilson the milk snatcher hasn't got any rhythm to it has it? Snatcher the milk snatcher has got ryme and is easily remembered, is it not?
Now the Wilson Government started the milk cuts when the withdrew the free milk to secondary school pupils.
We don't hear much about Wilson's grab, do we?
Regards
Vic

[Red Lead Ted]

Brian, I remember signing on the dole no work on Merseyside, I done the community program for a pittance, I done the voluntary scheme ET An extra £10 on your dole, And i done the job club, I then decide to get on my bike and walked the streets of London for 4 days, Found myself a job and digs walked into Harrow social security office there where 3 white men in there looking for a weeks dole money and a weeks rent the same as me, Both me and the two Irish guys where removed from the office by police after being refused what we where entitled to while working a week in hand. The counter staff where all ethnics and told us to go to Brent dole office where we might be successful, Never signed on the dole again. I made a life for my family at the expense of know-one, Thatcher in the meantime had plans of putting the army on the streets of Liverpool, Just another kick in the teeth from the iron lady, Thatcher not worth the value of her hand bag Terry.

[Ivan Cloherty]

We have a culture if anything goes wrong of blame the Tories, the toffs, and Maggie Thatcher, poor Maggie got blamed for many things even before she became a minister, Labour is Utopia it would seem, I shall expect the usual exocets, however my skin is becoming thicker.

[Jim Brady]

What amuses me no end is that Brian and Cappy absolutely abhor with a vengeance people on benefits,they like strivers and not skivers.So the point is the miners were proud hard working strivers and all they wanted was a job for life and a job for their children and grandchildren to keep them off benefits as there is not much other industry in some of those mining communities.So now they have lost their jobs Brian and Cappy can have a go at them for being skivers.For every strike there is a reason and I don't see what it has got todo with anybody not involved in that dispute.Yes I know we can be annoyed if a service that we require is not available but whose fault is it the management or the workers,both think that they are right hence the strike.
I have only had two dealings with unions I think both did me more harm than good,but why people are on strike it's not my business,people don't go on strike for nothing there is always a dispute over something.
Regards.
Jim.B.

[Red Lead Ted]

Vic, Read my post #51 And comment, Seems to me a lot of people dont like the truth this thread is about the Rail Strike, And would rather diverse into the past, Say it as it is Terry.

[cappy]

....my daughter travels to london and stays two nights per week on business ...her days morn and evening are being held to ransom by the rail union.....she cannot get to work or from work ......this is the union that stated we will give a conservative government ten years of hell.....how is it that a ignorant man living like a lord compared to the people he supposodly represents cause such chaos ......millions of people cannot get to work time and time again.......how do these people get to these positions ......the dispute is over who closes the train doors .....the holiday season of suppposed goodwill is upon us and sure enough they will close down peoples lives time and time again.......this at a time when the country is bracing itself for the brexit fight to come .....i think one or two people on the site know my general view on unions .....but can anyone tell me of a union that has the right to tell a government voted for by the biggest union ever ...ie the people.... they will give them10 years of hell ........they turn my country into a joke .......put the army in i say .....and spoil there work and xmas to .....for ten years if it takes that......ghosts of scargill and scrooge ....my answer take the bloody doors of .......no problem then......cappy

......there is no doubt the unions are fading fast in all the developed countries of the world ...this country is now learning the usefullness to anarchists of a union .......one usually unsavourary character end up bullying his way to the top ......less and less are joining ...in shields hospital at this time there are approx 30 to 31 in the kitchens ......the union got them sick pay on full wages when they are sick ....at this time there are 13 out of 30 on the sick average two weeks........same last xmas time .......NHS a union money box of taxpayers money.....cappy

[Ivan Cloherty]

For every strike there is a reason and I don't see what it has got todo with anybody not involved in that dispute.Yes I know we can be annoyed if a service that we require is not available but whose fault is it the management or the workers,both think that they are right hence the strike.

Regards.
Jim.B.

Jim I think everyone who is not directly involved in the strike has a right to know what it is all about, especially if it affects other peoples lives and their ability to go about their lawful business and work, it also affects the economy of our country as a whole, we are not just annoyed that we cannot get a service as you put it, but we have to look at whole picture. As for going on strike for a reason I never ever met a seaman whilst I was afloat or ashore who had wanted to go on strike, the union leaders like their members to go on strike as it gives these leaders a sense of power and importance and a means to justify their huge salaries, cars and expenses and probably hidden political agendas

[Red Lead Ted]

......there is no doubt the unions are fading fast in all the developed countries of the world ...this country is now learning the usefullness to anarchists of a union .......one usually unsavourary character end up bullying his way to the top ......less and less are joining ...in shields hospital at this time there are approx 30 to 31 in the kitchens ......the union got them sick pay on full wages when they are sick ....at this time there are 13 out of 30 on the sick average two weeks........same last xmas time .......NHS a union money box of taxpayers money.....cappy

Therefore Cappy you are right, And anyone who is prepared to stand up for there jobs is wrong, What a load of garbage

[Captain Kong]

What amuses me no end is that Brian and Cappy absolutely abhor with a vengeance people on benefits,they like strivers and not skivers.So the point is the miners were proud hard working strivers and all they wanted was a job for life and a job for their children and grandchildren to keep them off benefits as there is not much other industry in some of those mining communities.So now they have lost their jobs Brian and Cappy can have a go at them for being skivers.For every strike there is a reason and I don't see what it has got todo with anybody not involved in that dispute.Yes I know we can be annoyed if a service that we require is not available but whose fault is it the management or the workers,both think that they are right hence the strike.
I have only had two dealings with unions I think both did me more harm than good,but why people are on strike it's not my business,people don't go on strike for nothing there is always a dispute over something.
Regards.
Jim.B.

Hi Jim
The Miners DID NOT GO ON STRIKE, they were forced out by Scargill`s Gangsters with threats of Violence against their families. , There was Never a Ballot, The Miners had Nothing to go on strike for, The best pay, conditions of any Industry, it was Scargill`s plan to destroy the Industry, a Political act .
The only people who suffered were the Miners when Scargill had the Mines closed down so damaged they could Never reopen.
My Brother was a Miner and my mates were Miners and here it was a Mining community, so I got the TRUE STORY.
Why is it that some people believe the Political agitators rhetoric. When everyone knows it is LIES.
Brian.