syria

[j.sabourn]

A soldiers definition of war is probably killing the enemy by fair means or foul. As regards nail bombs was frequently used during Nelsons era by the navy in lieu of cannon balls, until more sophisticated weapons came there are more than two sides to any conflict nowadays. So we go back to the good and the bad, and adjust this by saying we are on the good side. Depends what propaganda one is able to put out. There are always atrocietys in war to name a few was the use of Napalm in Vietnam also agent orange, what other methods of killing is probably kept under wraps. To fight wars over religious beliefs is going back to Crusader times with the same mindset. The quickest results is for every Christian country to outlaw Sharia law, however this might step on the toes of those who believe religion and all its teachings are sacred, and above man made laws. Everyone has his or her personal beliefs, if we didnt and not make them known, you are only giving free rein to whoever is head of the country, by definition Politician or Dictator. JS

[happy daze john in oz]

AS to the feelings of the various armed forces it will depend on who they are. Infantry are normally close up so a kill will be almost personal. For the air force and some times navy the enemy is often far away and not seen. But for those who do not like the killing then do not join up. Somehow I do bot see an early end to any of this conflict, and if and when it does end something else will begin.

[Roger Dyer]

#4, I'm afraid Roger that old adage "the rules of fair play do not apply in love and war." Will always have prescience in these situations, that quote I believe was first uttered in 1579.......and nothing has changed

Dear Marian..... It seems you may have misunderstood the purpose of my #4. Rather than suggest an expectation of 'fair play' in modern warfare (which we both know does not exist), I merely sought to point out that hypocrisy is still alive and well.

Roger

[john sutton]

From Canada…..definitely worth a read and forwarding.






Here is an excellent FB post that ALL people should read. This fellow
is an Historian who offers an accurate assessment of the root of the
problem the world faces today and likely well into the future.
(It would be good to get this on the editorial pages of all the major


newspapers of the world before it's too late)



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Syria has had a civil war for almost 5 YEARS. Why all the "refugees"
NOW and why so all of a SUDDEN and why in such VAST NUMBERS?
With an Honors degree in History and a lifelong student of the
subject, I smell a rat.
This is a highly organized, well oiled, mobilized invasion of ******s
and Jihadists into the Western World. It's been in their plan for a long
time. Momar Gadhafi predicted and explicitly stated that ****** domination
of Europe would happen without a conventional war and he said it 30 years
ago. 95% of these economic "refugees" many who have cellphones are men
between the fighting ages of 20 and 40. Very few women and children from
everything I've seen.
Odd that the 5 wealthiest Arab States including Saudi Arabia, Qatar,
Bahrain and Kuwait are taking "no refugees" and feel quite self
righteous about it. No guilt what so ever? They are even laughing at us
for doing so.
Ask yourself, why would Germany Belgium, Holland, France, Sweden and
others want to destroy their own cultures from within? It doesn't make any
sense? If this keeps up Europe will be burning daily within a very short
few years if not months. Civil war in the streets between civilizations.
******s vs Kefirs, that is to say, everyone who is not a ******.
Unfortunately, the reality is that ******s are just not like any
other immigrants. They don't want to assimilate, they want to set up
separate enclaves and implement Sharia Law. Another problem is that while
the civilized West rightly abhors violence, conversely ******s daily
display their love of violence. They live it and embrace it. In many
****** countries public be-headings and stoning to death for adultery for
example. It's a part of their culture precisely because ***** is - dare I
say it - a death cult.
***** is a supremacist, totalitarian, bigoted, fascist political
ideology masquerading as a religion. It literally means "submission". The
Quran MANDATES death for blasphemy, for adultery, for apostasy, for family
honor, for being gay, Jewish or a Kafer as well as ten other "crimes" many
not even considered to be so in the West. Death for drinking alcohol or
taking illegal drugs for example.
Why let in vast numbers of these brainwashed people especially men of
that age when past experience has already demonstrated the tragedy, not to
mention the financial, social, and political costs of rampant
multiculturalism in Europe. Ordinary citizens are against this immigration
but strangely, their governments are not?
Someone or some organization is pulling some strings here is what I
see. Is this invasion part of the New World Order's plan to depopulate the
planet? Maybe there's not even any such an organization but it's all over
U-tube and other social media.
The major media are implicit in selling gullible citizens of the West
the righteousness of the "refugees" cause and openly siding against
Western culture. One drowned child's picture in the right places sparks
outrage and sympathy world wide for the movement and resettlement of vast
numbers of ******s.
However the implementation of Sharia Law, No Go Zone ghettos in most
countries in Europe and ****** rape gangs go unreported. In radical
Islamist countries honor killings, be-headings, stoning's, cutting off
limbs, whipping and torture, pedophilia, child bride marriages, rape and
misogyny go unreported DAILY and are dismissed as culturally ingrained.
Where is the indignity and the outrage over people doing this every
day to their own populations? Yet a staged picture a drowned baby on a
beach sparks a world outcry?
****** birthrates are 8 children per family while Europeans average
1.4. When these current millions bring in their multiple wives, children
and extended families 85% of whom live on state benefits (England's
experience) you can multiply their number by at least 10x, maybe 20x or
even more.
By 2050 Europe will be ****** dominated just by demographics alone.
When their numbers are sufficient they will legally vote in their own kind
and then Sharia Law.
Europe as we know it will be lost forever. Two thousand years of
civilization will be destroyed by the same fanatical bearded, bigoted,
brutal, boneheaded, belligerent bastards who are now slaughtering their
own kind and blowing up ancient and irreplaceable world heritage


buildings, monuments, books, manuscripts and other historically
significant art treasures in Iraq, Syria and other conquered territories.
Canada should not get sucked into this quagmire of political
correctness just to show how polite, civilized. politically correct and
Canadian we are. We should learn a lesson from our Australian
counterparts.



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[Captain Kong]

I have sent many mails to the Prime Minister Cameron on the same subject.
No Response,.
Brian

[happy daze john in oz]

But it will not stop when they have taken over the whole world. There are two groups of them who hate each other so the war will continue with them as the only antagonists. Then one day, pouf, the world will end and it will all have ben for nought.

[Rodney Mills]

Perhaps I have missed something, but I am not aware of any refugees or economic migrants, upon reaching the halfway mark at the borders of Hungary, turning to the right and mother Russia, rather than left and Germany and points West. I wonder why that is?

[Captain Kong]

Because Rodney , there are too many daft and stupid do gooders in our country and in Europe.
Russia does have its own problems with the moo, slims.
In Russia they will have to work to earn their keep, here they do not have to work and they get a lot more money tax free than I get after 50 years of hard work and 65 years of paying taxes to feed these international bums.
and at the end of the day they are going to turn Europe into one big Caliphate.
Bet you are happy there is three and a half thousand miles of ocean in between. I wish we had.
Cheers
Brian.

[happy daze john in oz]

Perhaps I have missed something, but I am not aware of any refugees or economic migrants, upon reaching the halfway mark at the borders of Hungary, turning to the right and mother Russia, rather than left and Germany and points West. I wonder why that is?

None of them own a GPS.

[Keith Tindell]

Not true there John, a huge ammount of them have iphones, with built in GPS, i have wondered where they charge them, how they pay for them etc. Thats how they find their way through the loopholes in the fences etc, by phone contact with each other KT