Where ships go to die

[j.sabourn]

I heard you flogged that Timber Cappy, and if you were on the Cragmoor in 57, i knew one of the apprentices that was there then. Saw him last June when over and just sits in a chair all day says his legs are bad, probably with all the plonk he drinks, dont suppose you taught him that did you. Cheers John S I know your excuse will be you told him to rub it on his legs and not drink it JS

[robpage]

To try and answer your Question on Ship scrapping Marian ,

Able UK based in Teeside with a huge drydock had contracts to scrap American warships and the French Carrier Clemenceeau , a locl environmental pressure group , " Friends of Hartlepool " greated a huge stink , for quite a small group , over the dismantling and the nerby landfill site , like all ships of a certain age , these contained Asbestos , Mercury , and a few other toxic compounds . These could have been safely and correctly disposed of under UK lefgislation , but the fuss caused stopped teh remaining ten ships being processed , and the yard ran at half the capacity , this was somewhere around 2008/2009 . Ships could be scrapped safely , and at a price , but the pressure group made an impact . I don't know the cutrernt position with Able UK , but shipowners would probably rather use Allang or the equally as bad Turkish yards , to avoid the protest groups . Over 98% of the ships were recycled with less than 10 lorry loads going to landfill , the job was finished in 2011 after three years of work that followed six years of protest, and court cases , only five ships out of a possible one hundred and sixty seven were dismantled , I have not a clue where the one hundred and sixty two ended up , but they could have provided safe British jobs .

No , would I like a dismantling yard in my back yard, well that was not in the question , so I will tell you no I would not . Were the campaigners right ? , well the way the Health and Safety Executive and the Environmental Agency govern such work , probably not , but I do not live in Hartlepool .

I hope that answers what I believe your question was

[cappy]

what name was he john ...altjough.....doubt ii i wuld remember57 years a long time

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guess thats about par for the course.......ivan......had a similar experience ....insurance ...not good karma

[Captain Kong]

Ship building and ship breaking went into decline after Harold Wilson signed the Lima Agreement to transferr all our industries overseas to third world countries. Good Socialist was Harold.
Also the Queen Mary 2 could have been built in Harlands in Belfast. $800,000,000 order.
Tony Bliar refused Harlands any money to start up the first part of the contract. and the order was given to a bancrupt builder in St Nazire Chantiers. They have never stopped building ships since.
Belfast lost 4,000 ship building jobs that will never ever return. Again Phony Bliar, a good socialist.
He was after the President of europe job at the time and thought that deal better than employing British labour and skills.
Cheers
Brian.

[John Arton]

Able U.K. at Hartlepool is still ticking over and there was even rumours it would bid for the scrapping of the Costa Concordia.
They have their own web site ABLE UK and has depots in Humber and other ports. They still hold the licence to dismantle the U.S. Navy ships and I think they are now also into dismantling out of date oil platforms.
Rgds
JA

[robpage]

Would have been lot more work if " the friends of Hartlepool " had not kicked off , One of my pet hates is minority pressure groups who never see all the facts just those that headline , there are new lincenes up for fracking in West Sussex , the same faces are voicing the same objections , I wonder how many actually know what Fracking is ?

[Keith at Tregenna]

RE: Fracking, did you Google it ?

K.

[robpage]

I did not need to , but go ahead if you wish , The oil industry has been doing it for over 100 years

[Keith at Tregenna]

No it is ok, will let him who casts the first stone. K

[Captain Kong]

When I see those protesters camped out all day and every day, does anyone ever check to see if they are receiving Job Seekers allowance and benefits?, If they are then all their benefits should be stopped. We have a load of them in Lancashire. around Salford and the Fylde, been camping for months so where do they get their money from.?
Brian