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31st October 2013, 11:16 AM
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Amazing facts
His name was Fleming, and he was a poor Scottish farmer. One day, while trying to make a living for his family, he heard a cry for help coming from a nearby bog. He dropped his tools
and ran to the bog.
There, mired to his waist in black muck, was a terrified boy, screaming and struggling to free himself. Farmer Fleming saved the lad from what could have been a slow and terrifying death.
The next day, a fancy carriage pulled up to the Scotsman's sparse surroundings. An elegantly dressed nobleman stepped out and introduced himself as the father of the boy Farmer Fleming had saved.
'I want to repay you,' said the nobleman. 'You saved my son's life.'
'No, I can't accept payment for what I did,' the Scottish farmer replied waving off the offer. At that moment, the farmer's own son came to the door of the family hovel.
'Is that your son?' the nobleman asked.
'Yes,' the farmer replied proudly.
'I'll make you a deal. Let me provide him with the level of education my own son will enjoy If the lad is anything like his father, he'll no doubt grow to be a man we both will be proud of.' And that he did.
Farmer Fleming's son attended the very best schools and in time, graduated from St. Mary's Hospital Medical School in London, and went on to become known throughout the world as the noted Sir Alexander Fleming, the discoverer of Penicillin.
Years afterward, the same nobleman's son who was saved from the bog was stricken with pneumonia.
What saved his life this time? Penicillin.
The name of the nobleman? Lord Randolph Churchill .. His son's name?
Sir Winston Churchill.


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Life is too short to blend in.
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31st October 2013, 11:51 AM
#2
Re: Amazing facts
John.
Is that true, if it is, it just goes to show that fact is far more strange than fiction.
John Albert Evans
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31st October 2013, 08:55 PM
#3
Re: Amazing facts
Good one ,but Oh! the Green just kills the Eyes!
Cheers
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31st October 2013, 09:59 PM
#4
Re: Amazing facts
any tales of dr ross from Liverpool tropical medecin?
jp
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1st November 2013, 05:04 AM
#5
Re: Amazing facts

Originally Posted by
Doc Vernon
Good one ,but Oh! the Green just kills the Eyes!
Cheers
Should have gone to specsavers!!!!


Happy daze John in Oz.
Life is too short to blend in.
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1st November 2013, 09:41 AM
#6
Re: Amazing facts
I think if you check these "facts" out you will find them to be an urban myth.His brother was a doctor before him.
Regards.
Jim.B.
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1st November 2013, 09:50 AM
#7
Re: Amazing facts
From www.winstonchurchill.org
The Churchill-Fleming Non-Connection: The story that Sir Alexander Fleming or his father (the renditions vary) saved Churchill's life has roared around the Internet for years. Charming as it is, it is certainly fiction. We have cited later references, but in 2009 Ken Hirsch used Google Book Search to track what is likely the first appearance of this myth: the December 1944 issue of Coronet magazine, pages 17-18, in the story, "Dr. Lifesaver," by Arthur Gladstone Keeney.
Mr. Hirsch also tracked the author (1893-1955), a Florida and Washington D.C. newsman who served during World War II in the Office of War Information. "Since Keeney's story was published only a year after Churchill was stricken (prominently) with pneumonia," Mr. Hirsch writes, "I think it may be the first appearance of the myth."
According to Keeney, Churchill is saved from drowning in a Scottish lake by a farm boy named Alex. A few years later Churchill telephones Alex to say that his parents, in gratitude, will sponsor Alex's otherwise unaffordable medical school education. Alex graduates with honors and in 1928 discovers that certain bacteria cannot grow in certain vegetable molds. In 1943 when Churchill becomes ill in the Near East, Alex's invention, penicillin, is flown out to effect his cure. Thus once again Alexander Fleming saves the life of Winston Churchill.
Dr. John Mather writes: "A fundamental problem with the story is that Churchill was treated for this very serious strain of pneumonia not with penicillin but with ‘M&B,’ a short name for sulfadiazine produced by May and Baker Pharmaceuticals. Since he was so ill, it was probably a bacterial rather than a viral infection as the M&B was successful.
"Kay Halle, in her charming book Irrepressible Churchill (Cleveland: World 1966) comments (p. 196) that Churchill ‘delighted in referring to his doctors, Lord Moran and Dr. Bedford, as M&B.’ Then, when Churchill found that the most agreeable way of taking the drug was with whisky or brandy, he commented to his nurse: ‘Dear nurse, pray remember that man cannot live by M and B alone.’ But there is no evidence in the record that he received penicillin for any of his wartime pneumonias. He did have infections in later life, and I suspect he was given penicillin or some other antibiotic that would have by then become available, such as ampicillin. Also, Churchill did consult with Sir Alexander Fleming on 27 June 1946 about a staphylococcal infection which had apparently resisted penicillin. See Churchill: Taken from the Diaries of Lord Moran (Boston: Houghton Mifflin 1966), p. 335."
Official biographer Sir Martin Gilbert adds that the ages of Churchill and Fleming (or Fleming’s father) do not support the various accounts circulated; Alexander Fleming was seven years younger than Churchill. If he was plowing a field at say age 13, Churchill would have been 20. There is no record of Churchill nearly drowning in Scotland at that or any other age; or of Lord Randolph paying for Alexander Fleming’s education. Sir Martin also notes that Lord Moran’s diaries, while mentioning "M&B," say nothing about penicillin, or the need to fly it out to Churchill in the Near East.
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1st November 2013, 10:14 AM
#8
Re: Amazing facts
don't let the truth get in the way of a good story!!

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people talking about you is none of your business
R397928
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1st November 2013, 02:15 PM
#9
Re: Amazing facts
Great, but why are you SHOUTING, I had to stand back 6 ft. from the screen
Colin
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