Racism !!!!!!

[Roger Dyer]

Hello George, .....post #65 refers

Mate, I don't think that anyone would disagree with your comment that, generally speaking, in the western world we, the electorate, are responsible for electing our fellow citizens to whom we entrust the task of safeguarding the interests of our country and it's citizens. Unfortunately, once elected, rarely do they honour the pledges and promises made when seeking office. How can we tell whether that man/woman who looks so decent and sounds so intelligent and sincere, is the genuine article or just another one of those deceitful, self-serving individuals that seem so commonplace these days? Still, perhaps that's the way it's always been.

George, I once heard someone describe a good politician as a person who places the interests of his political party above all else whereas a statesman regards the interests of his country and it's people as paramount. I know which I'd prefer. Sadly, nowadays, statesmen/women are thin on the ground.

.......regards, Roger.

[Red Lead Ted]

i have enjoyed this thread, thank you one and all especially red lead ted.
i think we are all racist but many are scared to admit it. i know that i am racist. there are many black, brown, coffee coloured people that i have known as friends, and many i hate mainly because of thier (bad attitude) as they put it. they deliberatly pick arguments knowing that they can always, and do, employ the race card. i have been taken before the local(enfield) council by a jamaican woman, and who was the council rep? an arab. i went to sign on after an illness and was told by a pakistani girl who couldn't speak coherent english that as there were no suitable jobs i had to take what she gave me!. i eventually left enfield where i was born and moved to plymouth, but they are creeping in down here too. i could tell many tales of black racism but i guess many of you are the same as me frightened into silence by a stupid government who are taxing everyone but still living high off the hog and riding around in gas guzzling jags, a german car. and they ask you to buy british. i'll wait for the knock on the door. alf

True story m8 i kid you not, Back in the 80s when Lpool had the Toxteth riots the riots were conducted by both black@white both fed up in this city with life under Thatchers government. I went to London to work for a while i managed to get digs in Harrow i entered the social security office as i had to work a week in hand and wanted help with my rent and living, The social security office resembled the DJEDDA Gold market and when i was eventially seen by a lady from asia i was told if i didnt leave the building they would call the police because i kicked up that much of a rant over who was getting assistance and the fact that i was told to go to Brent and claim thereApparently harrow didnt deal with white cases only Ethnic minorities that is a true tale m8 and that was back in the 80s whats it like now?????????? Regards Terry.

[Jacyn Wade]

Looks like the cat has finally got Abadan's tongue...

Alf, I had been thinking the same thing, that we all have a little bit of the racist in us... or is it just simply the behaviour of a group of people make their entire race (or culture, if you will) look bad??? Hard to say, isn't it? Even within our own countries we make fun of different areas, i.e. the apparent jokes about Liverpudlians, Welshmen, etc. In Canada, it's Newfoundlanders, or Newfies, who bear the brunt of local jokes, but always very goodnaturedly (personally, I think it should be people from Manitoba).

I have a cousin who is half Canadian aboriginal. A few years ago he married a Hindu girl. The wedding was something else. It was a shortened version of a Hindu wedding (which apparently last 3 days) and was performed by an old Hindu man. After the Hindu bit, there was a brief native Canadian ceremony, which the Hindu gent introduced with words such as "please be patient; after we are finished, there is going to be a small Canadian rite performed..." in the most condescending manner. There were a few insulted people as a result, let me tell you. So what did this say about the Hindus to the non-Hindu group in attendance??? Looks bad on them so what do they expect???

It's the behaviour of people themselves that cause racism and bigotry really. Can't blame a whole race for the actions of a few... with the possible exception of the Nazis! (There, I said it so let's see what happens now.)

Cheers!

[Graham Payne]

What about us poor "Ginger People "
To my fellow abused Carrot tops
"I Say "
( Stand Firm, We Can Take It )

[Michael Lawrence]

I wasn't going to post on this, but racism has always been around in some form or other. Before so many coloured ethnic races moved here, we use to slag off each other. Thieving Scousers, sly Taffies, stuck up home counties, tight Scots, loudmouthed Cockneys'. Swede bashing yokels. We're are full of racism in some form or another. Remember those £10-00 Poms who took a cruise to Oz, Kiwi,. Canada, and South Africa and how some of 'em didn't realise they were going to have work for a living, but were convinced they were going to the land of Milk and Honey.
My take on Diane Abbot is a loud mouthed Black woman who puts her mouth ab out without engaging gear. BUT we have plenty of White politicians like that too. We also have plenty of bent Bastards, lets not forget Mandelson, Blair, and all those other good followers of the New labour party who got their snouts in the trough, one or two were coloured and also of the oh so upright Tory party(excuse me while I spit) and that useless orange group.
Am I a racist? I like to thing not but I have used those terms or thought them which are in my first paragraph. Hopefully I've grown up and grown wiser and heard your arguments about living conditions and how property has been devalued by the communiety that has moved in where you live. I live in a small drive of bungalows in a 'white' area. Do I get trouble? Yes, its usually from mindless parents who allow their offspring to ride their 125cc machines up and down the area normally without helmets and not one of them is a 'black kid'. This world is made up of different colours, creeds, religeons and the world is getting smaller and we have to learn to live with it. If one should be concerned then my worries are with the purveyors of ***** especially the poisonous variety that is preached in the v'madrassas and used to polute and radicalise young men and possibly women to believe in a state of perfection where they will enter Paradise thru acts of violence.
I have nothing else to add but I'm glad my formative years were in the 50's when life 'SEEMED' so much simpler(something like myself)

[Captain Kong]

If they came to this country and behaved themselves, improved them selves and were friendly and sociable it would be OK. But we seem to get the "animals" who are out not only to destroy what we have but to turn our country into another cess pit that they have left.
My Neighbours are only fit to inhabit the mud huts on the Khyber. They do not want to mix or intergrate, They dress as the Taliban do, They only speak the language of the Khyber,
They spit every where, I was in hospital on the main corridor when a group of them waiting for a lift to the Maternity ward, One woman lifted her Veil and spit a Big Gob onto the corridor floor.
I shouted "You Dirty Bastard" they just stared at me then got into the lift and disapeared. I had to stand there to stop people standing in it until I saw a young Nurse. I called her and showed her, She says "Did you do that?" NO, I want someone to clean it up. then she went and got a Porter, he said they are doing it all the time. No wonder there are a lot of infections in the Hospitals.
One day we may get the decent ones coming in, until then.............
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IS THIS HOW DAFT WE HAVE BECOME??.......
VW have a Black Mini car. It is painted Black, Complaints are now coming in about the colour of the paint. What kind of a Crazy world are we now living in. I have a Black Car, am I going to have to get rid of it? before I am attacked?
I despair, If people do not like it They have the FREEDOM to go elsewhere. .
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There is a photo of a black Mini on the page. on MAIL ONLINE.
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.Supermini that drove into a PC storm: Volkswagen's latest car in controversy over 'black up!' modelBy Ray Massey, Transport Editor

Last updated at 2:54 AM on 10th January 2012


As a leading carmaker Volkswagen is revered for its radical thinking and engineering genius.

Sadly for the German business, it is a little less adept when it comes to extricating itself from a PR nightmare.
With the launch of its new ‘up!’ supermini looming, the firm decided on a few special editions to boost sales of the model.
Stalled: The 'black up!' - a version of Volkswagen's new supermini - was dropped in the UK over fears it could cause offence to ethnic minorities
One, however, proved a little controversial. While the ‘white up!’ was always on safe ground, the ‘black up!’ was clearly heading for trouble.
UK bosses blocked the name fearing that if it was used in Britain, it could give offence to ethnic minorities – because of the connotation of white actors and singers ‘blacking up’ to perform as minstrels.

The solution they came up with however was hardly inspired. Bosses simply decided to reverse the words and call it the ‘up! black’.
Funnily enough, no one has been convinced and a PR storm that could have been averted now refuses to blow over.
Matthew Collins, of campaigning organisation Hope Not Hate, branded the name ‘insensitive’.
He said: ‘In this country at the moment we seem to be dealing with an explosion in racism and these are not the wisest of words to have been chosen.’
Volkswagen said there were no plans to change the ‘black up!’ name on the Continent because, as foreign words in European countries, they did not have the same ‘resonance’ as in Britain.
A spokesman said: ‘We recognised the potential sensitivity and reversed the wording.’


Read more: Supermini that drove into a PC storm: Volkswagen's latest car in controversy over 'Black up!' model | Mail Online

[Ivan Cloherty]

I must say I am more than a little dissapointed in my Scouse shipmates, I was sure that they, for sure , would spot a "wind up",

So thats what Rick-atick-tick-tick (post #47) means.......... a"wind up"

and is "wind up" short for I think I'm losing the argument here so I'll call it a "wind up" and hope nobody notices

Just an observation from someone with nothing constructive to add

[Jim Brady]

Hi Jan, (I can't call you AJ as there is only one AJ on this site as far as I'm concerned)What is a real girl friend by the way? I cannot speak for my fellow scousers but I could see that was said as a joke and I did not take offence to it.There has been a lot of adverse comments made at you and about you,have any of your posts been deleted? I have been right through and read all your posts and unless I'm a bit thick I can't see what all the hostility is about.There are two posting on here made by the same poster and I'm afraid if I was the recipient of these postings I would be more than annoyed and let the individual concerned know about it.
Regards.
Jim.B.

[Red Lead Ted]

When you read the post by A.J. Why would he have friends in every city in the country other than Lpool. And then finish his post with it could be worse you could be deported to Lpool. You and i both know there is a lot of stigma attatched to sousers. All of a sudden he was about To marry a scouse girl Why didnt he put that in his original post and he was on a wined up dont think so Jim he has been backed into a corner which he is trying to get out of. I personally couldnt give a monkeys for A.J. or his views i dont loose sleep over such trivialities. This was always meant to be a serious debate on an ever growing problem in the uk. I intend to email Joe Anderson Lpool city council leader and ex seaman himself and direct him to the views posted on this site regarding racism posted bye the most experienced people in the world to pass judgment we lived it and wore the tee shirt ex seaman. It is without doubt becoming a big issue in the uk you know that yourself from what has happened at Anfield of late. If Vern or Brian want to end this thread before we all start getting at each others throats i dont have a problem. But dont be kidded by A.J. After the event i have sat and had a coffee with you in your house you are a gent as a result i refuse to squabe with you or anyone else who has put positive input into this thread and lets hope those in power and higher can see this pulling of the race card for what it is. A load of codswallop. I wish you well as always Regards Terry.

[Doc Vernon]

I have put forward a vote on this Terry,to be fair to all,so will see how it goes within the next 48Hours!
Thanks
Cheers

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